Santorum calls global warming politics, not science
By The Associated Press
This article was published February 20, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
PHOTO BY ERIC GAY / AP
Republican presidential candidate, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum speaks during a campaign stop at the Christ Redeemer Church, Sunday, Feb. 19, 2012, in Cumming, Georgia.
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STEUBENVILLE, Ohio — Rick Santorum said President Barack Obama is pushing a radical environmental agenda that unwisely limits energy production and turns its back on science.
Santorum told voters in eastern Ohio on Monday that science is on the side of those who want to aggressively produce more oil and natural gas in America. He said the notion of global warming is not climate science but “political science.”
Santorum said Obama and his allies want to frighten people about new oil-exploration technologies so they can collect money and turn it over to politicians to win elections “so they can control your lives.”
Ohio’s GOP primary is March 6.
Santorum also planned several campaign appearances later Monday in Michigan. Voters there go to the polls on Feb. 28.
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NONSHEEPLE says... February 20, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
true..
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djigoo says... February 20, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
Once again, the frothy brown mixture doesn't know his @$$ from a hole in the ground...
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Reason says... February 20, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
Wow! The ADG must be endorsing Santorum. Figures.
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Aimee says... February 20, 2012 at 1:02 p.m.
So, how exactly can the president "and his allies...collect money and turn it over to politicians to win elections 'so they can control your lives'.” This guy is a major nut job...!!!
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“Why isn’t it a conservative position to conserve the Earth?”
"These people are so stupid they make me question evolution."
~ Bill Maher
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inquire says... February 20, 2012 at 1:33 p.m.
Obviously this nut job hasn't read about the Bush II administration threatening scientists into withholding information about global warming and corporations buying a scientist to put out faulty information claiming it isn't so. The evidence is all around us. It is real. Probably partly man made and partly a natural cycle, but it is real. Why are "conservatives" so "liberal" about destroying the environment ? Money, of course.
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JakeTidmore says... February 20, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
Ah Santorum, what beastly ideals slouch toward the polls in November? As Nietszche wrote: "Faith means not wanting to know what is true." and "...that faith moves no mountains but puts mountains where there are none."
Here are some thoughts by the late Christopher Hitchens on Santorum and the GOP: This is what the Republican Party has done to us this year: It has placed within reach of the Oval Office a man who is a religious fanatic and a proud, boastful ignoramus. Those who despise science and learning are not anti-elitist. They are morally and intellectually slothful people who are secretly envious of the educated and the cultured. And those who prate of spiritual warfare and demons are not just "people of faith" but theocratic bullies. Anyone who cares for the Constitution has a clear duty to repudiate this wickedness and stupidity.
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NickieD says... February 20, 2012 at 2:05 p.m.
Ol' Brown Foam is clearly disconnected from reality... Our president is not a Christian (hinted at), public educational standards are bad, prenatal care leads to abortion, birth control is abortion, abortion is murder, Climate Change is fake... is there a limt to the insanity that the GOP will demonstrate?
Of course, all this idiocy is powered by religion, which in and of itself is a belief in the unproven and unknowable. Why would a guy who professes a deep belief in the supernatural be any different from the way he is behaving now?
He is totally and completely disconnected from reality, including science.
SmarterThanMost.... what, tree stumps?
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jackalope says... February 20, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
I didn't know Santorum worked for the Heartland Institute? They must be big campaign donors. nytimes. com/2012/02/16/science/earth/in-heartland-institute-leak-a-plan-to-discredit-climate-teaching. html
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T6 says... February 20, 2012 at 3:58 p.m.
Jackalope, I hope you know that those documents were proven to be faked.
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jackalope says... February 20, 2012 at 4:12 p.m.
By whom, trouble? Or are you just taking the Heartland at their word?
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T6 says... February 20, 2012 at 4:21 p.m.
Jackalope, I was reading about that right before I saw what you had posted. I don't know if it's true or not I'm only posting what I found. OK?
wattsupwiththat. com/2012/02/15/notes-on-the-fake-heartland-document/
wattsupwiththat. com/2012/02/15/some-notes-on-the-heartland-leak/
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jackalope says... February 20, 2012 at 4:32 p.m.
Heartland has stated that ONE of the leaked documents is fake. The others they did not challenge. Also, the website you're citing is a climate change denying site, not exactly unbiased.
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Reason says... February 20, 2012 at 4:58 p.m.
Jackalope: Thanks for the link... The real socialists revealed! Wow!...
and claiming 501(c)(3). This will make for good reading tonight.
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T6 says... February 20, 2012 at 5:36 p.m.
We know that climate scientist are unbiased....( sarc)
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jackalope says... February 20, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
Scientists are generally fairly unbiased. They have the capability (unlike some) of revising their theories based on evidence.
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Moot point, however, as I did not cite any scientists, I cited the NY Times. If our two sources went up against each other fora research paper or something similar, guess which one would be called Credible and which one wouldn't?
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NickieD says... February 20, 2012 at 6:23 p.m.
Science works with fact(s) not magic and mythology. Science can always revise its theories based on fact(s).
Religion is stuck in a mythology that is 2,000 years old and even older and is unable to change any of its precepts, except the small ones and the undeniable ones, like a sun centered solar system... though lots of scientists had to be burned at the stake for saying the earth was not the center of the solar system before the church finally gave in to fact.
Now non-scientists deny Climate Change, yet the evidence is all around us, all around the world. You can deny fact but that does not change the fact.
The most amazing thing is people who can believe in unseen spirits, demons and invisible, all powerful beings who do nothing but judge, find it hard to believe things which are supported by fact.
I suppose living in the world of make believe is always easier than living in a real world going "south" because of greed and the stupidity of denial.
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T6 says... February 20, 2012 at 7:09 p.m.
Their funding (paycheck) depends on the existence of AGW. Thus are not unbiased.
NYT is not a credible source. It was payback for the NYT over the ClimateGate Story.
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Jfish says... February 20, 2012 at 7:47 p.m.
I think that both sides would have to agree that their have been instances where biased information was released or some information was withheld to favor their argument. However, I think inquire said it best, the planet is getting warmer, the question is how much is attributable to man.
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T6 says... February 20, 2012 at 9:20 p.m.
We are supposed to be going into a mini ice age. Not warming.
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JakeTidmore says... February 20, 2012 at 10:58 p.m.
Alex, alex, alex. You are so bad with your "facts" and your arguments that it borders on the absurd. Did Eric Hoffer interview you for his book, "The True Believer"? You are the real thing when it comes to such stuff. The gen-u-wine R-tickle.
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T6 says... February 21, 2012 at 12:17 a.m.
dailymail. co. uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming--Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html
aim. org/guest-column/the-fraudsters-who-invent-the-science-of-climate-change/?
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Aimee says... February 21, 2012 at 1:12 a.m.
"If 95% of Oncologists agreed something new caused cancer, the government would ban it. But when 95% of scientists say Global Climate Change is a fact, people give it a resounding 'Meh!'"
~ Bill Maher
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Populist says... February 21, 2012 at 7:58 a.m.
Don't worry about Santorum. He is going down. While it has not been widely reported, his wife lived with an abortion doctor for years before she left him for Santorum. You can bet Romney will start stirring that up soon. Some people are supporting Santorum as a means of stopping Romney and getting to a brokered convention. If nobody can get to the magical number needed to win on the first ballot, you are looking at Mike Huckabee or Chris Christie at the head of the ticket and Gov. Susana Martinez of New Mexico as VP. I don't think she is as dumb as Palin, and she would help with the hispanic voters.
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RonalFos says... February 21, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
I certainly agree with this article's title. The global warming issue has been made political by Republicans under the sponsorship of oil companies, coal companies and the wealthy who see their short term profits in peril if global warming science is accepted and acted on in a manner consistent with it's importance to humanity. There was doubt among scientist at first about global warming and man's contribution to it, but scientists doubt everything at first. The difference between them and politicians is scientist realized how important this issue was and applied themselves to checking it out. By today 95% or so of climate scientists around the world agree that the earth is warming and man is a major contributor to it. Anyone who gives right wing political thoughts on this issue equal weight with climate scientist is foolish.
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T6 says... February 21, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
Populist , So you're the designated slime thrower today, Huh?
RonalFos....... Jones:[FOI, temperature data]Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get - and has to be well hidden. I've discussed this with the main funder (US Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.
foia2011. org/
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Reason says... February 21, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.
This article is really about Santorum questioning Obama's faith calling it "some phony theology, not a theology based on the Bible."...And when the media asked him about it Sunday, Santorum lied and said he was talking about Obama's "radical environomentalists' and his "world belief that elevates the earth above man." environmental belief. The news media went back and replayed the clips and Santorum was talking strictly about religion and there was no mention of the environment and Santorum then complained about "gotcha journalism". Santorum said Obama was a Christian but Christianity had many stripes and he did not agree with his stripe in reference to the environment. All the other news and the AP news titles ran... 'Santorum questions Obama's 'world view," not faith"... But ADG titled it about global warming and they have radically edited this article since yesterday.
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Reason says... February 21, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
Huffington Post excerpts:
Did you know Rick Santorum’s wife, Karen, had a six-year affair with an abortionist named Tom Allen?" anti-abortion activist Elizabeth Reichert writes in the letter. "This abortion doctor was 30 years her senior! In fact, he delivered her as a baby! The only reason they broke up was that Karen wanted kids -- while Tom was busy killing them."
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"When she moved out to go be with Rick, she told me I'd like him, that he was pro-choice and a humanist," Allen told Philadelphia City Paper. "But I don't think there's a humanist bone in that man's body."
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jackalope says... February 21, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
Let's not forget that Santorum's wife underwent one of those "super-evil" late term abortions to save her own life. And her husband, the politician, is the one who made that call, despite campaigning to overturn Roe v Wade completely.
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Populist says... February 21, 2012 at 11:51 a.m.
T6,
While I think anybody who denies global warming at this point is ignorant, I wasn't intending to throw slime at Santorum; I was just pointing out a fact and speculating as to what may happen in this crazy Republican nomination process. Too many Republicans are unhappy with the choice between Romney and Santorum. Some of the Democrats are becoming overconfident. The Koch brothers may be evil, but they are not stupid. They are out there trying to figure out how to beat Obama, and neither Romney nor Santorum seem up to the task. A new face paired with the female, hispanic governor of New Mexico makes this a more interesting race. The Democrats are not slinging any mud at Santorum now; they would love to have him as the nominee. It is the pro-life people and the Romney people who want to bring Santorum down. I am just pointing out this fact.
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Populist says... February 21, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
Also, if there is no global warming why are all the glaciers melting? I am going to Alaska this summer, and the travel books all describe how the glaciers are receding. I guess the right wing nuts are going to argue that all the travel books are written by liberals who are lying about the condition of the glaciers. Well, the rightwingers better hope that it is cooler in Texas this summer or the Republicans are going to lose in Texas in November also.
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T6 says... February 21, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
Reason
What someone does or believes in the twenties has no bearing on what they do now. You know kinda like Obama had homosexual lovers and did cocaine, heroin and marajuana when he was young but doesn't necessarily mean he still is gay or does drugs now. Although it's been said he has. What Karen Garver did BEFORE she became Karen Santorum is relevant HOW?
How do you figure Mrs Santorum had an abortion?
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jackalope says... February 21, 2012 at 2:30 p.m.
It's widely known that Karen Santorum had an abortion (and a late-term one at that). I'm all for her right to do so, but it's a little hypocritical of her husband to campaign against abortion rights knowing that he utilized those rights to save his wife's life. She developed a life-threatening infection during the 19th week of her pregnancy (2nd trimester). She and her husband both agreed to high doses of antibiotics, even knowing that these would induce labor and the fetus was too young to survive outside the womb, effectively inducing an abortion. Rick Santorum did tell the Inquirer at the time that “if that had to be the call, we would have induced labor if we had to,” under the understanding that the fetus was going to die anyway and intervening would save Karen’s life.
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Reason says... February 21, 2012 at 2:53 p.m.
T6: It is relevant because he is a hypocrite! Even Ron Paul said that life began at conception but if his granddaughter was raped, he being a gynecologist, would take her to the emergency room and take care of it. And when he realized what he had said... He said, "I realize there are many gray areas on this issue." And Ron Paul is right! But when you mandate a law... It puts a woman's life or a 10 year old child's life at risk! Abortions should be RARE! But just because one believes that it should not be illegal does not make them pro-abortion. Men and women serve in the military but that does not make them pro-war.
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T6 says... February 21, 2012 at 3:25 p.m.
Karen Santorum had a surgery to SAVE her baby, then got an infection from the surgery.
Just shows the pro abortion zealots never pass up a chance to lie to further their agenda.
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jackalope says... February 21, 2012 at 3:34 p.m.
And in treating that infection, she induced labor. According to standard GOP rhetoric, she should have died rather than do anything to induce labor pre-term.
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Jfish says... February 21, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
Reason and jackalope, I don't agree with Santorum's comments, but you lose credibility when the topic is global warming and you start attacking his wife on abortion, a whole separate issue.
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Populist says... February 21, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
Jfish,
These comment sections go off topic. We got on the abortion issue just because I mentioned that I don't think that Santorum is electable and the Romney people are going to start stirring this up. Apparently, some right-to-lifers have been protesting Santorum.
Actually, as this article discusses Santorum; any Santorum topic is relevant.
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Reason says... February 21, 2012 at 4:15 p.m.
jfish: The topic was NOT global warning! The topic was Santorum questioning Obama's faith. Pay attention!
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T6 says... February 21, 2012 at 4:44 p.m.
There is a difference in an attempt to undergo surgery to save the life of her child with procedures a woman undergoes to end the life of her child. It's petty for people to politicize the loss of a child for a straw man argument. Doing all you can to prevent the loss of a child you wanted is nothing like planning the execution of a child you don’t want. Their child was not going to live regardless, yet Karen Santorum risked her life to take the pregnancy as far as possible.
According to Nancy Pelosi's pro abortion stance, she said the GOP wants women to die. I would say this proves her wrong. Since he did everything that could be done to save baby and mother.
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Reason says... February 21, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.
T6: I happen to think the Santorum's made the right decision but Santorum's law would prevent that right and that is hypocritical.
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jackalope says... February 21, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.
And what about so-called "partial-birth abortion"? Partial birth abortions are only done for one reason -- a woman is losing a pregnancy that is often desperately wanted. The procedure is done as a way to give the woman and her family a body to bury. And yet the GOP keeps campaigning to put up more and more roadblocks in the way of this life-saving procedure, pretending that there are 6 - 8 month pregnant women out there who just decide "Oops, no I don't think I want to have this baby anymore."
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Rick Santorum said he would have induced the labor if needed, knowing the child would die. That is an abortion, whether you choose to call it such or not. As I've said, I completely respect and agree with their right to make that decision, but it is the height of hypocrisy to suggest that other women be denied the right to make the same choice he and his wife made. The Santorums are the embodiment of the saying "The only moral abortion is my abortion." Google that phrase for a huge list of anecdotes from abortion providers regarding providing procedures to stringent anti-choice women. In their minds, their abortion is the only one that was for a "good reason" and every other woman seeking one is using abortion as a weird form of birth control.
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People repeatedly using abortion as "birth control" is a GOP myth. It's an expensive procedure, and while it's the absolute safest surgical intervention a woman can have these days, there are inherent risks, as with any surgery. Almost no one just has an abortion instead of using birth control, and if they do, those people are very very few and far between.
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NickieD says... February 21, 2012 at 7:45 p.m.
jackalope; most women I know that have had an abortion say it was horrible and heart breaking and that they would never do it again... it ought to be available but iot very doubtful that it is used in a serial kind of way for the reason you said plus the emotional toll.
That said, it is still and should remain, a womans choice to do it or not.
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charlie3704 says... February 21, 2012 at 9:56 p.m.
I really do not care what Santorum says about global warming, I do how ever would like to know facts about Maurice Strong having the scientist Books fixed to show global warming when indeed the polar ice caps are getting larger!
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Jfish says... February 21, 2012 at 10:22 p.m.
Reason, better check the headline, I copied and pasted it here for you just in case you don't know how to scroll up and down on your screen, "Santorum calls global warming politics, not science", you are welcome.
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Reason says... February 21, 2012 at 10:55 p.m.
jfish: This is yesterday's article.... read what I posted February 21, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.
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Populist says... February 22, 2012 at 7:06 a.m.
In any event, Santorum is not going to beat Obama. He is not mainstream. Only the far right types believe that global warming is a hoax. People across the country are noticing the changing weather patterns. Glaciers are melting. Beetles are eating up pine trees in the west because the winters have not been cold enough to kill them off. Texas was just a boiling pot last summer. The East Coast has had one of its warmest winters ever. Only a few right wing kooks are totally unconcerned about the environment.
While many people do not support gay marriage, they still do not approve of gay bashing which seems to be one of Santorum's favorite hobbies. It also is difficult to pull off a holier than thou attitude on abortion when your wife lived in luxury for a number of years with a wealthy abortion doctor.
Santorum can't beat Obama and probably won't get the nomination. He may get enough delegates to help Huckabee win the nomination.
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HorseshoeBendAtheist says... February 22, 2012 at 1:08 p.m.
Sanctomoron talks just like the Nazi Pimp Pope Joe Ratzinger alias Benedick... callous, dishonest insensitive & criminal... 1997 MRS Santorum has a partial birth abortion to save her life for her litter of "babies" & these nutcase papists took the dead thing home to cuddle with all the other children WHILE HIS STATED POLICY IS NO ABORTIONS FOR ANYONE ELSE ... THIS idiot bigot attacks gays & straights if they don't get a church licence .... what is scary is not this clown but the millions who vote for him
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Jfish says... February 22, 2012 at 1:37 p.m.
Horshoebend, again, I am not a Santorum fan, but posting things like that only discredits you and other ethical atheists.
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Populist says... February 22, 2012 at 4:56 p.m.
There's a debate tonight in Arizona. I'm sure that Barack and Michelle are looking forward to watching their favorite "show." I hope that this episode is as entertaining as some of the previous ones. I am sure that there is starting to be some concern that one of these weak candidates won't wrap up the nomination and some better candidate will be selected. Oh well, I'm looking forward to some popcorn and wine. The kids can do their homework by themselves.
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T6 says... February 22, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
Why bother watching Populist since you think you Messiah is a shoe in? You want some hilarious entertainment watch one of Obama's speeches when his TOTUS quits working! NOW that's FUNNY right there.
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T6 says... February 22, 2012 at 5:59 p.m.
should've be a shoo in
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Jjackk says... February 22, 2012 at 6:57 p.m.
You want to talk about a messiah you need to talk to Santorum. He sounds like Bobby Boucher's mom. Obama is the devil, the protestant churches are the devil, Muslims are the devil.
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T6 says... February 22, 2012 at 8:25 p.m.
Funny how the rest of the Muslim World considers Obama one of them.
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Populist says... February 23, 2012 at 7:51 a.m.
T6,
You are so full of lies and hatred. Obama is not a Muslim, and he is responsible for bringing Bin Laden to justice. You are so screwed up.
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T6 says... February 23, 2012 at 8:03 a.m.
Pop, Are you denying the Muslim World considers him a Muslim?
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HotSpringsLawyer says... February 23, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
If global warming is merely a political, they certainly started laying the groundwork for it early. I was taught in college in the 1970s that atmospheric warming would inevitably result from the increasing emissions of greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide.
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Populist says... February 23, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.
T6,
Yes, I am denying that the Muslim world considers Obama a Muslim. I've never heard anybody call Obama a Muslim except for racist white men living in the United States.
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djigoo says... February 23, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.
T6, tell us the one about Obama having gay sex again. That's always good for a laugh.
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ToGQ4U says... February 23, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
www(DOT)guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord
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Reason says... February 23, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
All these accusations have been denied by CRU spokepersons, and the CRU's researchers stated that the emails had been taken out of context and merely reflect an honest exchange of ideas.[9][10]
The mainstream media picked up the story as negotiations over climate change mitigation began in Copenhagen on 7 December, with Fox News and some other media outlets giving the controversy increased coverage.[11]
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Eight committees investigated the allegations and published reports, finding no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct.[14] The Muir Russell report stated, however, "We do find that there has been a consistent pattern of failing to display the proper degree of openness, both on the part of CRU scientists and on the part of the UEA."[15][16] The scientific consensus that global warming is occurring as a result of human activity remained unchanged at the end of the investigations.[17]
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In response to the controversy, the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the American Meteorological Society (AMS) and the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) released statements supporting the scientific consensus that the Earth's mean surface temperature had been rising for decades, with the AAAS concluding "based on multiple lines of scientific evidence that global climate change caused by human activities is now underway...it is a growing threat to society."[13]
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy
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You can read the entire: Independent Reviews, Submissions and Evidence, Rebuttals and Corrections, Statements, Other Reports and CRU New @
uea. ac. uk/mac/comm/media/press/CRUstatements/
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T6 says... February 23, 2012 at 1:33 p.m.
I'm surprised you didn't say Think Progress had debunked the ClimateGate emails.
wattsupwiththat. com/climategate/
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Packman says... February 23, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
Rick Santorum or any other Republican will kick BH Obama's skinny asterick this fall when voters are reminded of Obama's countless lies and the way he has divided America like no other president. Skyrocketing fuel prices will soon kill economic growth which is all that's currently keeping the goober above water.
Hey Populist - For someone who professes to be so educated, you believe some really stupid things. Global warming may not be a hoax, but it is a desperate proposition of environmental wingnuts. The answer to the following questions shows the fallacy in any theory regarding man made global warming and legitimate scientific inquiry: How old is the Earth? How old is climate data on the Earth?
Hey NickieD - How do you reconcile your belief that all Christians are buffons with your belief that BH Obama is one of the most intelligent people on Earth, even though Obama professes to belive in God, the Bible, Jesus Christ, and all things Christian?
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Jjackk says... February 23, 2012 at 6:31 p.m.
"In 2001, Dr. Hansen was invited twice to brief Vice President Dick Cheney and other cabinet members on climate change. White House officials were interested in his findings showing that cleaning up soot, which also warms the atmosphere, was an effective and far easier first step than curbing carbon dioxide."
Wonder why the Bush administration was looking for easy ways to curb warming if it was a fallacy?
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Populist says... February 23, 2012 at 6:36 p.m.
Packman,
This is not my field of expertise and there is too much scholarly work on this subject so my commentary would not be that helpful. The reputable scientists in this area all agree that there is a problem. None of the Republicans who claim that global warming is a hoax have any expertise in this area. Try to name one credible scholar who believes that global warming is a hoax.
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T6 says... February 23, 2012 at 6:54 p.m.
Populist.....I never said anyone called him a Muslim. I said they consider him a Muslim because his father, grandfather, greatfather were Muslims. Obama's half sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim."
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Populist says... February 23, 2012 at 8:34 p.m.
T6,
Who is "they"? While there are many Muslims in Indonesia, Obama was mostly raised by his Christian grandparents (from Kansas, one of whom was descended from Arkies) in Hawaii. The right wing nuts all claimed that Obama was a secret Muslim in the last election cycle and that we were all doomed to be taken over by hostile nations if he were elected. You conspiracy theorists are losing credibility. He just seems to be a fine American.
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Jjackk says... February 23, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
Maybe you should keep up with other world newspapers. He hasn't won many friends let alone consider him one of their own. Its funny how here he gets accused of a "Muslim lover" and over there he is an Israeli puppet.
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T6 says... February 23, 2012 at 9:04 p.m.
Populist have you had one too many? Having a hard time comprehending? As I posted Obama's half sister said her whole family was Muslim.
(They) being Muslims. According to Islamic law.
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Populist says... February 24, 2012 at 7:39 a.m.
T6,
We always can count on you to take quotes out of context in your effort to spead lies. If you read the whole article written by Jodi Kantor, it is about how Obama was exposed to a number of religions, but is a Christian. The article was "A Candidate, His Minister and the Search for Faith" published by the New York Times on April 30, 2007. In fact the first seven words following your quote were "But Mr. Obama attended a Catholic school..." The article also discusses the impact of his Baptist and Methodist grandparents and how Obama attended a Christian school in Hawaii. T6, you are just a slimeball.
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Jjackk says... February 24, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
No you didn't
T6 says... February 22, 2012 at 8:25 p.m.
Funny how the rest of the Muslim World considers Obama one of them.
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T6 says... February 24, 2012 at 9:28 a.m.
jjackk....... I said they "consider" him a Muslim because of his lineage. Just as I consider you a jackass is different than out right CALLING you a jackass. Vocally voicing and thinking ARE two different things. Don't cha know.
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Jjackk says... February 24, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
At least I'm not a liar.
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Packman says... February 24, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
Populist - "Try to name one credible scholar who believes that global warming is a hoax." You're kidding, right? I mean, you can't be serious. Alas, maybe you really are that verbose. There are many websties available to provide your formal rebuke. As to specific names try this one: Peter Gleick. His initial work as a global warming extremist has been fully refuted by many in the scientific community. (Do a "peter gleick discredited" Google serach) Again, the data is based on such a miniscule slice of pie no credible scientist would ever call it definitive. Can you name one credible scientist who has made such a declaration?
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T6 says... February 24, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
Populist, Such harsh name calling. Not very lady like of you.....
Out of context, HUH? DID Maya Sotoreo-NG SAY what I posted or not? I can post the article where she did say it.
Obama's own campaign said he wasn't a "practicing Muslim"
The Los Angeles Times reported that Barack Obama’s campaign seems to be modifying its earlier affirmation that “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.”
In a statement to The Times, the campaign offered slightly different wording, saying: “Obama has never been a practicing Muslim.” The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood’s Islamic center.
According to the New York Times Obama can recite the Arabic call to prayer with a first rate Arabic accent. He also call the it "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."
If Obama only went to a Muslim school for just a 2 couple of years and only went to Muslim prayers only occasionally, he sure did learn the language and the Call to prayer awfully fast.
OH, BTW, Pop,Best not to open your trap UNLESS you know what you're talking about.
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Reason says... February 24, 2012 at 11 a.m.
Typical tea party trash. And the message from the Republicans was... "We rue the day, we ever heard of the tea party."
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T6 says... February 24, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
Jjackk, Name calling with no proof is soooo beneath you. Oh wait it's not.
Reason, Facts are a stubborn thing. Aren't they?
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T6 says... February 24, 2012 at 11:40 a.m.
Populist....... Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
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Coralie says... February 24, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
Speaking of liars and hypocrites...what I really fear about Santorum is not that he is a fanatic but that he is one of the most corrupt men who has ever run for President.
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Jjackk says... February 24, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
The numbers show the global temperatures have been above historical average 35 years in a row. There has not been more CO2 in the atmosphere for over 800,000 years. I don't have to have a someone tell me something is going on. Who is denying numbers and who isn't? The CO2 content in the atmosphere is political? Its factual, take it however you want.
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Populist says... February 24, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
T6,
I went to Catholic school for 6 years, but I am a Protestant. Obama actually went to a Muslim school in Indonesia for a couple of years, but spent more time attending Christian schools. Obama says that he is a Christian and attends Christian church and has a Christian wife. Assuming that your allegation that he is a secret Muslim is correct, he nonetheless has ordered the execution of Bin Laden and many other enemies of the United States. If he is a secret Muslim, he is our kind of secret Muslim. (P.S. Michelle has a cousin who is a Rabbi but that does not make her Jewish.)
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inquire says... February 24, 2012 at 4:38 p.m.
What is supposed to be the significance of Obama saying the sound of the Muslim call to prayer was beautiful? So what? I think the sound of Catholics singing in chant is beautiful, and I was raised Baptist. I think sukiyaki is a beautiful song, and I don't understand a word of Japanese.
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endbureaucrazy says... February 24, 2012 at 6:54 p.m.
+ NEW - COMPLETE COVERAGE OF EURO-CRISES(BUREAUCRAZY) vs 2012(2008) US ELECTIONS FRAUD(remember Kennedy!!?) !!! FIND OUT WHY HOPE DIES LAST
NOT THAT IT IS GERMAN OR EUROPEAN UNION'S FOLD FOR WHAT IS TAKING PLACE, BUT INSTEAD BUREAUCRACY BULLIES IN INDIVIDUAL STATES WHO LOVE TO PICK ON SMALL PEOPLE WITH IDEA TO TURN THEM IN DISSIDENTS FOR THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA (anti German-European sentiment is used or stereotyping to incite people in hatred toward own race/ethnicity/religion = Greece in flames and numerous people incarcerated throughout German prison system) WITH USE OF GENOCIDE PROCEDURES WHILE BEHIND OUR BACKS, CRIMINALS ARE SUGGESTING DURING THEIR BOGUS FINANCIAL CRISES HOW IT'S RIGHTISTS FOLD FOR EUROPEAN UNION TO FALL APART AND EVEN HOW THERE IS STILL HOPE(because YOUR hope people, dies last if you remember)...WE CAN STILL SAVE EUROPE(after they flooded Europe with third world population and cheap Chinese imports to turn you in jobless trash for the sake of NWO's multiculturalism = terrorism agenda, they dare to talk to you about hope - imagine this).
PLEASE GOOGLE ANY PORTION OF ABOVE TEXT TO GET LINKS TO ORIGINAL WEBSITES(simply ridiculous policy to censoring links - what is journalism all about !!? Censoring or giving ability of misinformation !!?).
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T6 says... February 24, 2012 at 7:23 p.m.
endburearcrazy...... aimee is that you? Better get back on your meds girl.
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Populist says... February 24, 2012 at 9:22 p.m.
T6,
What is it you do for a living?
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djigoo says... February 25, 2012 at 11:33 a.m.
Populist, T6 makes tinfoil hats for a living.
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Populist says... February 26, 2012 at 6:53 a.m.
I've asked T6 before what he does and he never responds. He may be employed by a rightwing organization to slander Obama, or he may be some KKK grand wizard. In any event, he seems to devote his whole life to attacking Obama.
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arky12 says... February 26, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
Since when did Santorum become a scientist? The majority of scientists, worldwide, are in agreement regarding global warming. One only needs to experience the erratic weather we've experienced this past year and it will only get worse from here.
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T6 says... February 26, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.
Populist, When did it become a requirement to give personal information on here? The info you've posted about yourself, you did so with no one asking. What everyone on here does for a living does not concern me, as it shouldn't you. What should worry everyone is idiots like you who will vote for the POC in the WH. When you become my new best friend, then I might tell you what you want to know. In other words, Pop, it's none of your business, what I do for a living, my gender, my religion. my martial status or anything else.
Populist, Slandering Obama? You're kidding right? If you don't choose to believe Obama's past and present, that's your business. You know nothing about the man and you and his other Comrades believe everything he says. The ONLY truth that's come out of the man's mouth is he said he was GOING TO FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM AMERICA. That he would bankrupt the Coal Companies and our energy bills would necessarily skyrocket. No truer words were ever spoken from the Campaigner-in-Chief.
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Packman says... February 26, 2012 at noon
Hey arkie 12 and Jjackk (Mr. Meoff) - You two speak of data collected as "historical average" and something that was going on in the Earth's atmosphere 800,000 years ago. The ignorance of these thougths is stratospheric. Exactly who was collecting all that space age data 800,000 years back and how does that historical average stack up against the age of the Earth? And tell us, arkie and Mr. Meoff, what is it today, global warming, global cooling, acid rain, or climate change??? Man made global global warming/cooling/climate change or whatever is a dispirited theory at best, and most likely a terrible hoax perpetrated by shamless environmental wingnuts aided and abetted by a dedicated group of useful idiots.
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Jjackk says... February 26, 2012 at 4:51 p.m.
You calling some one ignorant, now that is a good one, packgirl
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Mikeej says... February 26, 2012 at 9:20 p.m.
The attempts to limit global warming may be in question, not global warming (or more correctly climate change) itself. CO2 is just one problem. Cow farts, Permafrost warming, Soot, Methane hydride at the bottom of the ocean. It may be too much for man to stop.
We may be on a collision course with destiny ... still, I would rather try than "let go and let GOD!!"
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Mikeej says... February 26, 2012 at 9:33 p.m.
I believe they can extrapolate 800000 years ago because they have bored ice samples in Antartica and can analyze the CO2 in a gas chromatograph, the same way archeologists can look at rock strata. You shouldn't question it .... you use the same data to show that there were other periods of global warming BEFORE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. The question is are we making a natural cycle worse with 8 billion people all wanting cars and fires and coal fired electrical generating plants to provide light and heat.
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Mikeej says... February 26, 2012 at 9:52 p.m.
Global warming may self regulate to global cooling bringing on a mini-ice age. At our current population density, WE ARE SCREWED if we lose our Northern states farm land.
How could it happen? The melting water seeps under the Greenland Ice Sheet between the ground and the ice, lifting it enough to start a slide towards the ocean. A large enough fresh water shock may break the thermohaline circulation.(google it)
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Populist says... February 27, 2012 at 5:43 a.m.
Santorum is calling Obama a "snob" by encouraging more kids to go to college. Santorum either does not get that we need to be better educated in a more highly technical world or just wants to cause more division in our society. As Santorum has a J.D. and an MBA, Santorum is the snob for thinking that he needed an education, but the masses do not.
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Populist says... February 27, 2012 at 5:49 a.m.
T6,
I really don't care what people on here do for a living. I would just like to know whether you are paid to smear the President. I've had enought past involvement in politics to know that people are paid to spread dirt. I am just curious as to whether you are one of them or if you do this just because you hate Obama because he is a black man. I really don't think that you are so stupid that you really believe that Obama is some form of closet Muslim. I suspect that you are one of those people who are paid to do this.
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djigoo says... February 27, 2012 at 8:07 a.m.
Let's not forget T6 is also obsessed with Obama's sexuality.
That's just creepy.
I doubt he's paid for smearing; those people usually have a pretty good grasp of grammar and usage rules.
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T6 says... February 27, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.
Djigoo, Whaaaaat, are you homophobic?
Pop, A Democrat dugged the dirt up on Obama, Kinda ironic isn't it. Just proves Democrats know how to get down in the sewer better than anyone.
Pop, I don't hate Obama, I certainly don't dislike him for being Black and I didn't say he was a closet Muslim. But his policies, his crony capitalism, his race baiting, his class warfare IS what's going to get him defeated in Nov.
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suffernofools says... February 27, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
Look, folks, even if global warming is real, that's no reason to deprive people from driving Hummers and burning coal. Freedom is everything, and the atmosphere belongs to all of us to use as we like. The air YOU breathe is MY dump, so live with it. We should exploit the earth, and the people who do it best will and should get filthy rich, no pun intended, smart-ass liberals. Too much ozone and particulate in the atmosphere? Build a tinted bubble over your home and purchase equipment to filter the air. Can't afford it? Tough, that's how a free market in a free country works. Losers are the earth's real pollution, not industrialism. I read that in an Ayn Rand book. I'm sick of all you weenies who think we are all in this together. May the best arsenal come out on top. Hoo-yah!
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Packman says... February 27, 2012 at 1:13 p.m.
Hey Jjackk (Mr. Meoff) - I believe you meant to say "someone" and not "some one". Look who's ignorant now? LingMAO.....
Hey Mikeey - Do you think any of that data was contaminated in any way? Was there any extrapolations based on hypothesis? How does the trend data stack up to the Earth's age? Answers to these few questions will show the flaws in the data leaving any credible scientist to say it was speculative at best.
Hey Populist - Be careful about talking Santorum out of context on his thoughts on a college education. In a nutshell, he's 100% correct. Lots of kids have about as much business going to college as you have sitting beside me in a duck blind. To prove my point, check out college remediation rates and the percentage of kids who start college but never finish. THAT's where the majority of waste is in a college education. Had those kids (college dropouts) started in a trade school or a job that provided OJT the cost of a college education would be substantially lower and more effective to boot. This country DOES NOT need more education. What we need is education reform and politicians like Rick Santorum who are not afraid to tell the truth even when it's not politically correct.
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Populist says... February 27, 2012 at 1:18 p.m.
T6,
What dirt? There really is no good dirt on Barack and Michelle. They really are kind of boring. Now, Santorum's wife lived with a much older abortion doctor. That's pretty shocking! Romney would be boring also if he weren't a multimillionaire who sticks his foot in his mouth so often.
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Jjackk says... February 27, 2012 at 2:18 p.m.
Packgirl, why don't you prove those flaws. A 30 year study and you think you can discount it because you are a dumb hillbilly that don't trust them thangs called facts. You freaking moron. Nothing you say has any weight whatsoever with anybody but you and your girlfriend, trouble.
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Populist says... February 28, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
Packman,
People should choose education which is appropriate for their skill set and available jobs. While there are unscrupulous little colleges which promote expensive programs and falsify the hiring rates of their graduates, education is the key to people becoming successful individuals. I'm not just talking about a college degree. People of all types and situations in life should always strive to enrich their lives with opening their minds to new things. I've said this until I am blue in the face, but it bears repeating. Wealth and education are closely tied together. The richest countries are the best educated, the richest states are the best educated, and the richest counties in Arkansas are the best educated. While everybody can point out rich people who are not well educated and people with advanced degrees who are not rich, overall the market pays more for people who have more knowledge and skills. You cannot expect the economy in Arkansas to improve without significant financial investment in education and an attitude adjustment with respect to the importance of education. You need to have the teachers and equipment and children and parents who are willing to work hard. It is not easy getting my boys to study and do their work; they'd much rather watch tv and play video games.
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Aimee says... March 1, 2012 at 12:17 a.m.
"Santorum said Obama and his allies want to frighten people about new oil-exploration technologies so they can collect money..."
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Collect money from WHOM..???? Sheesh...!!!!
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RonalFos says... March 4, 2012 at 8:40 a.m.
"The survey by the University of Michigan and Muhlenberg College says 62 percent of those asked last December think the Earth is getting warmer..." The Republican party is going to pay a price for being on the wrong side of this issue and other issues where it places money and politics ahead of science.
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Populist says... March 4, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
RonalFos,
Yes. The Republicans have just become too far to the right that they are out of the mainstream. They are against the environment, gays, birth control, education, and the middle class. Smart centrists such as Michael Bloomberg and Olympia Snowe either leave the party or public service. If McCain had picked Olympia Snowe as his running mate instead of Palin, McCain very well might be President today. These Republicans try to stay in power by spewing hatred and intolerance. I hope that they get their butts whipped in 2012 and that a new crop of young Republican governors have some sense and will be able to fill the void of talent and common sense in the Republican Party. Washington is just a mess with the extremes on both sides fighting and spewing hatred. I am very sad that Olympia Snowe is retiring.
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djigoo says... March 4, 2012 at 12:44 p.m.
Seriously, T6...I want to see a link to a reputable article about Obama's alleged homosexual escapades. ("Reputable" means no NewsMax, WorldNetDaily, or any of the other sources I'm guessing you have bookmarked.)
And no, I'm not homophobic. Nor is my same-gender partner of 23+ years.
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