Senator vows to delay Obama’s nominees over Libya
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This article was published February 10, 2013 at 10:36 a.m.
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WASHINGTON A leading Republican senator is threatening to hold up Senate confirmation of President Barack Obama’s nominees to lead the Defense Department and the CIA until the White House provides more answers about the deadly Sept. 11 attack against a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya.
Sen. Lindsey Graham is angered by what he calls White House “stonewalling” about the attack that killed four Americans, including the ambassador.
Graham tells CBS he’ll hold up Senate action on the nominations of Chuck Hagel as defense secretary and John Brennan as CIA director until he gets what he wants.
The senator wants to know what Obama was doing during the time of the attack and whether he was in touch with Libyan officials.
Democratic Sen. Jack Reed calls Graham’s threat “unprecedented and unwarranted.”








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aimee says... February 10, 2013 at 12:22 p.m.
Why is this senator wasting everyone's time on an issue the Republicans LOST in the November elections..???
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RonalFos says... February 10, 2013 at 12:30 p.m.
Republicans have heard all about Benghazi they need to hear! They need to shut up and move on. In their search for dirt, the Republicans are just digging a deeper hole for themselves with the public.
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T6 says... February 10, 2013 at 1:07 p.m.
RonalFos...WHEN is holding SOMEONE accountable for the DEATHS of 4 AMERICANS, killed when they could have been saved, digging for dirt? SAo murder is OK with you. It seems Obama is not in any hurry to bring anyone to justice for the murders in Benghazi, Is he?
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djigoo says... February 10, 2013 at 1:28 p.m.
Miss Graham gets her knickers in a twist on a daily basis.
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HotSpringsLawyer says... February 10, 2013 at 2:18 p.m.
Very responsible behavior for a Senator. Defense and Intelligence arent really all that important apparently. Hope he doesnt flutter away on his tiny little wings....
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BillSmith says... February 10, 2013 at 2:25 p.m.
T6.... shut up or post proof and source where it says they could have been saved. Leon Penatta testified they had no rapid response teams that could have reached them in time. Where is you source that says that is not true? You just mouth off with out facts as usual.
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T6 says... February 10, 2013 at 3:23 p.m.
BillSmith such hate from a "christian"? YOU don't want to know the truth, YOU refuse to see the truth because YOU and the rest of your bunch don't want to face facts your President isn't a god tho he thinks he is. Panetta, Hillary and Obama WILL NEVER KNOW if the 4 DEAD AMERICANS could have been saved BECAUSE THEY NEVER TRIED TO SAVE THEM. The truth will come to light, what ever is done in darkness will be brought to the light. There are alot of questions you should be asking but you stick your head in the sand and ignore, ignore, ignore. You accept what your Tryannt-in-Chief and his minions say without ever questioning.
Fact remains OBAMA wasn't involved with rescuing the 4 DEAD AMERICANS!
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... February 10, 2013 at 4:07 p.m.
Whatever you do Senator Graham DO NOT STAND UP for what you believe in. Be a yellow bellied spineless wimp like the liberals expect you to be, so you can be a jellyfish just like them.
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BillSmith says... February 10, 2013 at 4:26 p.m.
T6....All I am asking is to show me the source of your so called truth, you can't do it, just come up with some BS about doing somethin in darkness and them being brought into the light. You sound like Bennie Hinn the snake oil salesman.
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cliffcarson says... February 10, 2013 at 4:47 p.m.
Remember when the Republicans on here were applauding George the Bush for telling some of his cohorts that they will not be allowed to testify before Congress about some of his and his Administrations actions that actually may have been identified as Treason? Republicans really do speak with forked tongue. This is why the Republican Party is utterly useless to provide the American people ethical and moral Governance. The Party doesn't believe in such.
The Republicans number 1 Priority is to harass Obama and that priority is to the detriment of the American People.
This is also why after some of those Bush shenanigans that were wholeheartedly supported by the Republican Rank and File because, well, Bush was a Republican- that I stated the best thing for America is for the Republican Party to fade away into the dustbin of History.
The Republican Party won't do anything for the American 99%, and that includes me and probably all you long nosed Republican shills out there. Maybe you could make a list of all the good things Bush did for the 99% When he was the President.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... February 10, 2013 at 6:01 p.m.
So Cliff what you are saying is the Republicans forked tongue is worse that the Democrats? You are a wonderful illustration of the hypocrisy in both parties; I got really sick of the whole my way or the highway mentality of Bush. Now that Obama is doing the same thing the Democrats are loving it while impugning the Republicans. I respect your opinions on global warming since you seem to be level headed on that subject, but this whole us vs. them mentality that our country has turned into is deplorable. It is the reason we cannot get anything done in DC. I am guessing 5% of the country actually wants compromise while 95% is content with doing nothing. This is why I constantly make fun of the process, much like my previous post in this thread. I think we have leaders in boh parties now who give ZERO ZERO ZERO consideration to what is best for our country. They only want to be re-elected and will grease any palm, take any money from any lobbyist, and say whatever they have to say to get 2 or 4 more years.
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BillSmith says... February 10, 2013 at 6:19 p.m.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... February 10, 2013 at 6:20 p.m.
So what you are saying BS is those 2 hate Obama like you hate all Republicans. Great job, 2 thumbs up for clarifying your hate!
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BillSmith says... February 10, 2013 at 6:29 p.m.
T6.....here is who you are looking at in 2016.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton remains the most popular politician in the nation, according to the results of a new Quinnipiac poll.
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BillSmith says... February 10, 2013 at 6:30 p.m.
T6.....after about 16 years of Dem's in the White House the GOP will be the way of the Whig party. This country will finally move in the right direction.
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BillSmith says... February 10, 2013 at 6:34 p.m.
T6....... Reagan cut and Ran after this: Did you forget this item in history?
he Beirut Barracks Bombing (October 23, 1983 in Beirut, Lebanon) occurred during the Lebanese Civil War, when two truck bombs struck separate buildings housing United States and French military forces—members of the Multinational Force in Lebanon—killing 299 American and French servicemen. The organization Islamic Jihad, later known as Hezbollah, claimed responsibility for the bombing.
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cliffcarson says... February 10, 2013 at 6:57 p.m.
Redwings
Actually I agree with you. But if Obama is a bad President, it doesn't mean that Bush was a good President, or that the Republican Party has the interest of the 99% as their number one priority. . That is why I so violently disagree with the Official Republican Party line.
I have even written that Obama should be Impeached. But that doesn't make Bush or the Republican Party even one iota better, the GOP still has as their number one priority to get Obama out of office, and that position supersedes doing anything that would help the average American Citizen. In fact I believe that the stance the Republican Party has taken is to prolong the misery that they brought about and propagandize that Obama is the cause of it all.
I believe that this last election proved that the majority of American voters have become savvy to that Republican mindset. That was why the Republicans got their buxts kicked in this last election.
What the Republican Party needs to do is work with the Liberal Democrats to improve the economy. That is the first thing to do to get out of any Recession and reduce deficits. Unemployed people do not pay tax, they actually put a drain on United States Revenue flow. Less employed people means less taxes collected, and that adds to the deficit. In the last ten years we have spent $3 Trillion on needless wars. Three Trillion is 3,000 Billion. You might remember that Bush and Bunch didn't make possible the payment of the wars, they kicked it down the road . If you will think back you might remember the cost of the Iraqi war was going to be $84 Billion. Compare that to 3,000 Billion. Eighty four billion is somewhat less than 1/3 of 1% of their estimated cost when they started this war against a Country that had done nothing to us and was not a threat to whatsoever. Hussein even agreed to go into exile to avoid an invasion of Iraq but the offer was withdrawn after he accepted it. Bush and his boys wanted a war because for the few there's mucho money to be made. The rest of us have to suffer and die so that those fat cats can get richer.
I think that sums up the Republican Party.
I have advocated for a Viable Ethical Moral Third Party for sometime, but the Tea Party, spell that Republican cousin Koch Party, is definitely not the answer.
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... February 10, 2013 at 7:07 p.m.
Having watched the hearing(s), Hagel could not answer about half of the questions without being handed a note of correction. This guy is clueless.
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cliffcarson says... February 10, 2013 at 7:20 p.m.
And Bill that is just part of the story. Go read back and research and you will find that the American troops were there to protect civilians against the invading Israeli Army. You might recall that the IDF was indiscriminately firing artillery into Beirut civilian areas. The French started supporting the IDF and after that the French Embassy was bombed.
Then the U S started supporting the IDF and sure enough the U S Embassy was bombed.
By the way, this was when and why Hezbollah was formed - to push the IDF out of Lebanon.
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cliffcarson says... February 10, 2013 at 7:26 p.m.
Dontdinkdatkoolaid
Hagel, a Republican, made the unforgivable mistake of dissing Israel. When accused of not supporting Israel enough, his reply was " I was elected to the United States Senate, I am an American Senator, I am not a Senator for Israel, if I wanted to be that I would have run as an Israeli candidate for the Senate.
For that ethical stand Republicans have disowned him. We need more elected officials that do not put Israel interests over the interests of the United States.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... February 10, 2013 at 7:43 p.m.
Cliff I want moderation, but unfortunately neither party wants to head towards the middle. The problem is both parties hate candidates who compromise and make dang sure they funnel all of their money to the far right/left candidate who will not compromise and make sure the compromise candidate nevers make it past the primary. They would both rather have a yes man lose a general election than have a compromise win it. The days of the Sam Nunn, Birch Bayh, etc are gone. We cannot elect a centrist anymore; however people like Bill Smith thinks the Republican party is going away yet they hold right at 2/3 of the governorships. Bill is part of a huge problem in the US; every time they think they have complete control they get kicked in the gonads. The biggest problems in our country always happen when one party has control of all 3 branches. I hope I never see it again in my lifetime, and I doubt I do based on the disgusting arrogance and hypocrisy on both sides.
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T6 says... February 10, 2013 at 8:01 p.m.
BillSmith says... February 10, 2013 at 6:29 p.m.
T6.....here is who you are looking at in 2016.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton remains the most popular politician in the nation, according to the results of a new Quinnipiac poll.
I doubt that Hillary will be Pres. neither her or Obama was there to answer the 3 AM phone call.
BTW Bill when Obama with his Obamacare and the Democrats get through taxing the middle class for their spending habit, they won't be able to get ANYONE to even stop to spit on them.
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cliffcarson says... February 10, 2013 at 8:54 p.m.
The way CliffCarson sees it:
The unnecessary wars have cost more than $3 Trillion so far
That's about 18.2 % of the current National Debt
The removal of money in the Social Security and Medicare Funds
taken and spent for things not SS or Medicare is about $5.8 Trillion
That's about 35.2 % of the current National Debt
Money not collected because of unemployed workers about $92 Billion Yr
That's about 1 % of the current National Debt per year since 2008
the figure is about 5%
Summing these three figures we get about 58.4% of the National debt.
1. Stop unnecessary wars
2. Stop taking from the SS and Medicare funds
3. Create jobs
These three actions could become a strong force toward decreasing the debt and eliminating running deficits.
But the most important thing is that Congress has to work together and approach the problem in a manner that will improve the lot of the 99%.
This morning on C-Span was a guest who is one of the World's most wealthy persons. His father started the Company in 1980 in India with $100 dollars. Their business plan was to produce goods and create jobs that would improve the people of India, its Social Fabric, and distribute a major portion of the profits thru the employees. His father thought that if the employees had a stake in the company profits , they would make themselves wealthy along with their boss. Over 1000 of his employees have become millionaires. Can you see an American Corporation doing that?
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... February 10, 2013 at 10:07 p.m.
C.C. I said, "Having watched the hearing(s), Hagel could not answer about half of the questions without being handed a note of correction. This guy is clueless." and nothing else.
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aimee says... February 11, 2013 at 1:29 a.m.
T6:
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Where was your outrage when former president G. W. Bush declined to explain why middle easterners were allowed to learn how to fly planes but not to how to land them..??? How many American deaths did THAT result in..???
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TimberTopper says... February 11, 2013 at 5:21 a.m.
His corrected name should be, Lindsey F. Graham. And the F stands for FOOL!
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T6 says... February 11, 2013 at 8:15 a.m.
Hey Aimless.... If you hated George Bush did then YOU have really got to hate what the Tyrannt-in-Chief is doing, hasn't he expanded ALL of GW policies. BUT I bet you don't because when it's you man, everything is A-OK. Whatever he wants to do is hunky dory with you. Hmmmm
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T6 says... February 11, 2013 at 9:01 a.m.
Hey Aimee...
In 1994, the government received information that international terrorists had seriously considered the use of airplanes as a means of carrying out terrorist attacks. According to the New York Times, The F.B.I. had been aware for several years that Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network were training pilots in the United States.
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In 1998, U.S. officials received reports concerning a "Bin Laden plot involving aircraft in the New York and Washington, areas." Officials received reports that al Qaeda was trying to establish an operative cell in the United States and that bin Laden was attempting to recruit a group of five to seven young men from the United States to travel to the Middle East for training in conjunction with his plans to strike U.S. domestic targets.
The report concluded that "a group of unidentified Arabs planned to fly an explosive-laden plane . . . into the World Trade Center".
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A 1999 report for the National Intelligence Council warned that fanatics loyal to bin Laden might try to hijack a jetliner and fly it into the Pentagon.
Wasn't former pres. Bill BJ Clinton in charge then? He must have had more important things on his mind, like Monica.
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BillSmith says... February 11, 2013 at 9:03 a.m.
T6.....Idiot- in-chief, what don’t you understand about this and what Cliff said about the IDF?
The Sabra and Shatila massacre was the slaughter of between 762 and 3,500 civilians, mostly Palestinian and Lebanese Shia, by a Lebanese Christian Phalangist militia in the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian refugee camps in Beirut, Lebanon from approximately 6:00 pm 16 September to 8:00 am 18 September 1982.[3]
The massacre was presented as retaliation for the assassination of newly elected Lebanese president Bachir Gemayel, the leader of the Lebanese Kataeb Party. It was wrongly assumed that Palestinian militants had carried out the assassination, which is now generally attributed to native, pro-Syrian militants.
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BillSmith says... February 11, 2013 at 9:51 a.m.
T6….. Is this what you are referring to?
Efforts to” capture” (Clinton) as opposed to “No Concern” Bush.
Previous accounts from that period, including accounts detailed by Clarke and others in the Clinton White House, described a renewed push in early 1999 to get the Taliban to turn over bin Laden to the United States or to a third country, as well as other efforts to capture bin Laden in the spring of 1999.
Richard A. Clarke, who was the White House counterterrorism chief under Clinton and for a few months under Bush, testified before the commission that the Bush national security team was not sufficiently concerned about the threat information before the Sept. 11 attacks. He has cited the 2001 PDB as proof that the Bush team had reason to be concerned about hijack threats. But in her testimony Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security adviser, played down the importance of the hijack reference in that memo, saying it was based on "old reporting."
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T6 says... February 11, 2013 at 10:02 a.m.
The USA doesn't need Brennan, a convert to Islam and Sharia Law as head of the CIA.
Bill... the more you post the more you show you abject ignorance.
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T6 says... February 11, 2013 at 10:22 a.m.
What efforts to capture(Clinton)? There was none!
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Reason says... February 11, 2013 at 10:50 a.m.
T6: The same NY Times articles says, "Mr. Murad, who was captured in the Philippines in 1995 and convicted in New York on charges of conspiring to blow up 12 American jumbo jets over the Pacific simultaneously, received flight training at schools in New York, North Carolina, California and Texas.
Information from Mr. Murad's confession formed a basis for an analysis prepared for United States intelligence agencies in 1999. The analysis warned that bin Laden terrorists could hijack a jet and fly it into government buildings like the Pentagon."
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"The Phoenix memorandum, along with the disclosure this week [May 18, 2002] that President Bush was warned in August of the possibility that Al Qaeda might be planning hijackings, have been seized on by lawmakers as evidence that the government missed signals of the coming attacks."
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PaulRevere says... February 11, 2013 at 11:04 a.m.
Aimee... We all know you are on the Obama payroll, and probably sitting in a Washington DC office. Your comments here are not only ignored, they are laughable.
Republicans may have lost the election, but they have not given up their responsibility to get the U.S. through these evil times.
Now, Unprecedented that a senator would hold up presidential appointments due to failure for the president to answer questions? Hardly. Just shows a lack of historical perspective.
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djigoo says... February 11, 2013 at 12:02 p.m.
" Your comments here are not only ignored..."
Wrote a person who is obviously NOT ignoring her statements.
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PaulRevere says... February 11, 2013 at 1:01 p.m.
Just sayin'
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harley1305121514 says... February 11, 2013 at 3:03 p.m.
Boy oh boy.....what a bunch! All of you, aimee, RonalFos, BS, CC, Reason....how in God's name can all of you give reference to George Bush's negetive actions (and yes Bush was a joke as President at times and he did make mistakes and can any of you name the president that didn't?) to justify Obamas actions as president? All of you can look the other way and ignore what all has happened BUT....can anyone of you say, with an honest straight face, that the Obama administration hasn't, at times, not always, but too often, lied and covered up far more than was really required? Again, let me say, "one of you show the rest of us which president was ALWAYS honest and truthful with the American people"! Which president didn't cause some suffering on the part of the American people while he was in office or at the least carry over into the next administration?
Democrats or Republicans.....what in hell does it matter? Hillary Clinton spoke for most all politicians when she made a similar statement.
Americans need to be REALISTS and face facts! In politics, regardless of who is supposed to be in charge or be "top dog", it's still every man or woman for themselves and who can get the most financial or power gain! It is not about making life for the American people better! It never has been and never will be!
Now having said what is REAL......why do all of you want to make it sound like Obama and his administration aren't covering up and lying to the world about Benghazi? They, like all other administration before them, F_ _ _ _ _ Up and can't just admit their mistakes, in a HONEST WAY to the American people, and accept our forgiveness (as if we have any choice) and go on to doing whatever it is they do!
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RBBrittain says... February 11, 2013 at 3:20 p.m.
Translation: "Bring me the heads of Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton on silver platters." I hope Mitch McConnell disavows this SOB who still thinks he can turn Benghazi into payback for Watergate (though even the GOP turned its back on Nixon).
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aimee says... February 11, 2013 at 4:43 p.m.
T6:
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You're blithering again..!!! A report can't get much clearer (and easier to follow up on) than Middle Easterners learning to fly planes but not land them... The reports in the Clinton administration were too vague to be able to stop... They weren't specific reports about specific pilots like Bush had..
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Harley:
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I have been critical of the president or have you just chosen to forget that..??? I only defend him when I see he is being unfairly accused of something...
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In answer to your question, NONE.. But does that mean that the current president needs to run to Congress to answer every little whim of a question that they have for him..??? No, that is what he has officials under for.. The President has more IMPORTANT things to do than to satisfy Senator Graham's need to be informed on whatever he THINKS is going on in his rabid imagination...
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Let the Senator worry about Sequestration, immigration reform, gun control, the environment and quit chasing phantasies of conspiracy..!!!
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RonalFos says... February 11, 2013 at 6:14 p.m.
The Republican Party is determined to try to grab more power than they earned at the ballot box. They are trying every trick, stretching every rule. They are acting like these games can't come back to bite them someday.
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cliffcarson says... February 11, 2013 at 9:12 p.m.
Harley
We need to impeach Obama. We should have impeached Bush.
Bush lied to start a war that is still going on. He is responsible for well over a million innocent dead. No telling how many have been harmed to the point of ruining their life forever.
Obama could have ended what Bush started but he didn't.
The 99% people of America do not have ethical and moral governance, and actually neither do the 1% but that doesn't matter to them because they are benefactors of the criminality of what we still call our Democracy. But lets face it. We no longer live in a Country governed by a Constitution.
George started it with his "War against Terror". This is a war that was never designed to end. It gives the Government more juice to push you and me deeper into subjugation.
Bush started the NDAA and Obama kept it alive.
This abusive law completely removes a citizen from the Rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
Within this law the president is given the right to do anything to you or me at his whim. All he has to do is claim he suspects you of something. He does not have to give you a trial whatsoever, certainly not a trial by your peers . That is gone. You can just be disappeared. Keep in mind that this is the power given to the President to use against an American citizen, living in the USA. If you think I am wrong, get a copy of the Act and read it.
So Harley, what is to do? Your and my problem is we defend one criminal against another. While we still have the vote we need to use it. I have over the years suggested that the only way to get the Government under the control of the people is to get rid of either the Democrat Party or the Republican Party and tell the surviving Party, "You have one chance to straighten up, otherwise you're next.
Harley, which Party should the people shun at the Ballot Box first?
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Jjackk says... February 11, 2013 at 9:45 p.m.
I'm with you, only a fool would think there party doesn't have blood on their hands. Its all about control and its not open to anyone but the two parties, any other party is treated like pilots who see UFOs and the 99% allow it to happen. Even the Politburo had a bigger turnover than our Congress.
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harley1305121514 says... February 12, 2013 at 12:04 a.m.
amiee...You think Benghazi and the dead Americans is a whim of a question and Obama shouldn't have to address it? You are lower than puke on the floor! You need to have a family member of yours, maybe a child or grandchild, go into harms way for this country and get their asses killed! Then let me be the first to say, "What difference does it make?"
You think the problems of immigration reform, gun control and the environment are more important than 4 American lives and that the president shouldn't have to answer questions about it? You should tell that to the dead ones families! You are a scum of a person!
CliffCarson.....I don't disagree with you on the two party system ever working to the good of the American people. I agree that it should be one party. To answer you question as to which party has to go....BOTH of them! There needs to be a new political party called the American Peoples Party. It would be made up with the same structure as the current one but a new citizens department would be added and all politicians terms would be year to year and this would include the president. There would be elections every year but with NO fan fare or celebrations. There would be strict rules on the amount of campaign money that could be spent. Corporate involvement would be very limited. The rich couldn't buy their way into any office. Every politician would perform for the good of ALL American people or at the end of the year it would be those politicians that were unemployed!
Maybe a bit crazy but couldn't be much worse than the two party system we have now.
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aimee says... February 12, 2013 at 12:37 a.m.
Harley:
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What questions did Senator Graham have for George W. Bush when he ignored a warning of Middle Eastern pilots being trained to fly planes but not to land them..??? What did he want to ask "W" about the lives lost in a war to remove non-existent WMDs..???
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The fact is that this Senator does not have one iota of proof that the President had anything to do with the loss of life at Benghazi... He is just "fishing" and would like to SEE if he could force a sitting president to answer his questions... He would do better to get the President's appointment secretary to tell him what the President was doing on that day..
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If he had any other reason for his "questions" than to "fish" or to try to embarrass the President, he would have given the same treatment, made the same demands, of a president from the Republican Party after the fiasco of the Iraq War and 911...
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Senator Graham's motives are clear and your support of them makes it clear that YOU are just as much of a low-life as he is..!!!
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RonalFos says... February 12, 2013 at 7:12 a.m.
Where was the Republican outcry when the Marines were blown up in Lebanon on Reagan's watch? I stood in a hanger at Dover AFB every day for almost a month at ceremonies for the dead Marines. While there was questions asked, there was never this level political gamesmanship over it. People have accepted responsibility, people have resigned from the State Department. Drop the political games and move on.
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T6 says... February 12, 2013 at 10 a.m.
Hey Aimless...Vague information? Not hardly! In 1998, U.S. intelligence had information that a group of unidentified Arabs planned to fly an explosives-laden airplane into the World Trade Center, according to a joint inquiry of the House and Senate intelligence committees.
archives.cnn. com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/18/intelligence.hearings/index.html
Why can't you just acknowledge it's both parties that have ruined this country?
RonalFos says...People have accepted responsibility, people have resigned from the State Department.
You are full of bull excrement if you believe that. The four officials supposedly out of jobs because of their blunders in the run-up to the deadly Benghazi terror attack remain on the State Department payroll — and will all be back to work soon, The Post has learned.
The highest-ranking official caught up in the scandal, Assistant Secretary of State Eric Boswell, has not “resigned” from government service, as officials said last week. He is just switching desks. And the other three are simply on administrative leave and are expected back.
Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton “has accepted Eric Boswell’s decision to resign as assistant secretary for diplomatic security, effective immediately.” What Nuland omitted was that Boswell gave up only the presidential appointment as assistant secretary, not his other portfolios.
The other officials — Deputy Assistant Secretaries Charlene Lamb and Raymond Maxwell, and a third who has not been identified — were found to have shown “performance inadequacies” but not “willful misconduct,” Pickering said, so they would not face discipline.
RonalFos please tell us how anyone in the State Dept resigned WHEN in Pickering words, "THEY WOULD NOT FACE DESCIPLINE"?
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aimee says... February 12, 2013 at 12:54 p.m.
T6:
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"a group of unidentified Arabs" is vague...
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"In July 2001, an FBI agent in the Phoenix field office sent a memo to FBI headquarters and to two agents on international terrorism squads in the New York Field Office, advising of the "possibility of a coordinated effort by Usama Bin Ladin" to send students to the United States to attend civil aviation schools."
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Specific information...
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"On August 15, 2001, the Minneapolis FBI Field Office initiated an intelligence investigation on Zacarias Moussaoui. As mentioned in chapter 7, he had entered the United States in February 2001, and had begun flight lessons at Airman Flight School in Norman, Oklahoma. He resumed his training at the Pan Am International Flight Academy in Eagan, Minnesota, starting on August 13. He had none of the usual qualifications for flight training on Pan Am's Boeing 747 flight simulators. He said he did not intend to become a commercial pilot but wanted the training as an "ego boosting thing." Moussaoui stood out because, with little knowledge of flying, he wanted to learn how to "take off and land" a Boeing 747."
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There were plenty of warnings in 2001 of what was just around the corner... Why did Senator Graham not demand to know what President Bush knew about them..??? Why is he only interested NOW in what President Obama knew about Benghazi..???
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The answer is called POLITICS..!!! Senator Graham needs to DROP his demands since he made NO SUCH demands when the number of deaths reached nearly 3,000..!!! His biased badgering is plain for anyone who has eyes to see it..!!! The U.S. Senate has more important things to do..!!!
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Reason says... February 12, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.
T6: Don't you think that it is just as plausible since it happened just before the election that Carl Rove could have possibly used some of that $300M to pay for the release of the video, to create havoc in that part of the world, in order to deflect attention away from the Benghazi embassy…. You know, terrorist attack for hire?
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Reason says... February 12, 2013 at 3:16 p.m.
Harley, it is the republicans that are disparaging 4 American heroes that lost their lives. Or did you not listen to the congressional hearings where Rand Paul claimed they were involved in smuggling arms? And ask T6 what Clinton has to do with Bush.
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Coralie says... February 12, 2013 at 3:17 p.m.
"The senator wants to know what Obama was doing during the time of the attack and whether he was in touch with Libyan officials."
I believe he was in an elementary school reading a book about baby ducks to first-graders.
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cliffcarson says... February 12, 2013 at 3:39 p.m.
Harley
You need to get a grip. It is one thing to disagree, it is entirely something different to always be calling people -stupid. As to the difference about Bengazi vs Unnecessary Wars, or if you prefer Obama vs Bush, I think I can shed some light on that.
What Obama has done is claim he was unawares of the reason behind the Bengazi attack. I don't see that as anything impossible. One thing for sure he didn't plan the attack and it was not up to him to rush people there to save the four Americans. By the time he knew about it, it was over and four Americans died at the hands of the enemy. Four Americans died.
On the other hand, Bush knew he was lying about the need to go to war, and he turned down the very opportunity to avoid it. He and the Republican Party Conservative crowd propagandized up the need for war all the while knowing it was all a lie.
Bush invaded Iraq because he fancied himself the cowboy superman. Over 5,000 Americans died , over a million Iraqis died.
There is a difference, a difference akin to the difference between night and day. Maybe through your hate you are blinded to that fact. But you don't have to call everyone stupid that disagrees with you. Can you try to do better?
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T6 says... February 12, 2013 at 3:40 p.m.
Reason... It was not an embassey. I dislike Carl Rove as much as I dislike Obama and John Boehner but I don't think he had anything to do with the video but I do think the Obama bunch did. For what reason would Carl Rove want to deflect away from the safe house? Why would he want 4 AMERICANS DEAD! Let me guess to make Obama look bad? Well Obama did that when he wasn't concerned enough with what was going on in Benghazi to even talk with Panetta or Dempsey.
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aimee says... February 12, 2013 at 5:02 p.m.
Harley:
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Please be specific about the "lies" that the President has told about Benghazi..??? Dates and places, please... And where did I say that Bush lied..??? You really need to try to get a grip on yourself..!!! I think your losing it..!!!
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BillSmith says... February 12, 2013 at 10:55 p.m.
Harley.....your the idiot, it was not an Embassy it was a consulate and as such does not have US Marines posted there. Leon Panetta said they had no rapid reaction force that would have been able to get there in time to help. What don't you get about that. We already know you don't know the difference from an embassy and a consulate.
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harley1305121514 says... February 13, 2013 at 1:18 a.m.
Billy Boy....you are the idiot and a fool! I watched the hearings you dirt bag. Panetta talked to Obama and informed him just after the first attack and way, like 5-8 hours, before the last attack. After telling him about the attack, Obama never attempted to check back with Panetta to see how bad things were. Panetta admitted it was 11/2 hours away befor our planes could have been there. Although he didn't think the planes were what they needed. So I guess he felt they didn't need anything and let them die! He didn't attempt anything and could have had fighter planes there in 11/2 hours and that would have been before the second attack happened and the two soldiers were still alive at that time!
Now, you idiot, where did I say there were marines there or anywhere else?
What is it that you can't understand about it not being where they were killed, embassy or consulate, ( and thats the best you got fool) but the fact that the Obama administration is as stupid as you and did nothing to even try and help.
amiee...did you see any of the hearing? He did know about the attack and later tried to say it was about a video! He is a liar.
CliffCarson....you are the one that needs to get a grip...on the truth. Obama did not say that he was unaware of the reasons for the attack. Show where he said that. Also you must not have watched the hearings either! You say Obama didn't know about the attack until it was over. Then why did Panetta testify that he, personally, informed Obama shortly after the first attack and never heard anything again from him until it was way over? He also testified that he knew at that time it was a terrorist attack and that is what he told Obama. Cliff...get a grip on what you are saying that is not truthful.
You, like amiee, and probably billy boy, still want to use that.....well Bush did this and Bush did that and Bush wasn't honest.....why do you think anything Bush did wrong makes it ok for Obama to do the same wrongs? You tell me, with that sort of thinking, which is not only stupid thinking but extremely childish, WHEN DOES IT STOP AND WILL IT BE OK FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENT TO DO THE SAME AS BUSH AND OBAMA JUST BECAUSE THEY DID?
billyboy, did I make it clear that you are an idiot?
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cliffcarson says... February 13, 2013 at 5:36 a.m.
Well Harley
It does appear that you are incurably self acclaimed. I've wasted time trying to help you become an acceptable person to have a conversation with. My bad.
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Reason says... February 13, 2013 at 7:11 a.m.
By our best estimate, the incident at the Temporary Mission Facility in Benghazi began at 3:42 p.m. eastern daylight time on September 11th. The Embassy in Tripoli was notified of the attacks almost immediately and within 17 minutes of the initial reports – at 3:59 p.m. – AFRICOM directed that an unarmed, unmanned, surveillance aircraft that was nearby to reposition overhead the Benghazi facility.
Soon after the initial reports about the attack on Benghazi, General Dempsey and I met with President Obama and he ordered all available DoD assets to respond to the attack in Libya and to protect U.S. personnel and interests in the region. It is important to remember that in addition to responding to the situation in Benghazi, we were also concerned about potential threats to U.S. personnel in Tunis, Tripoli, Cairo, Sana’a, and elsewhere that could potentially require a military response.
In consultation with Chairman Dempsey and AFRICOM Commander General Ham, I directed several specific actions:
A Marine Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Spain to prepare to deploy to Benghazi;
A Second FAST platoon to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli; A special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, to prepare to deploy to
an intermediate staging base in Southern Europe; and A special operations force based in the United States to deploy to an intermediate staging
base in Southern Europe.
Some have asked why other types of armed aircraft were not dispatched to Benghazi. The reason is because armed UAVs, AC-130 gunships, or fixed-wing fighters with the associated tanking, armaments, targeting and support capabilities were not in the vicinity of Libya and because of the distance, would have taken at least 9 to 12 hours if not more to deploy. This was, pure and simple, a problem of distance and time.
The quickest response option available was the Tripoli-based security team. Within hours, this six-person team, including two U.S. military personnel, chartered a private airplane and deployed to Benghazi. Within 15 minutes of arriving at the Annex facility, they came under attack by mortar and rocket propelled grenades. Members of this team, along with others at the Annex facility, provided emergency medical assistance and supported the evacuation of all personnel. Only 12 hours after the attacks began, all remaining U.S. government personnel had been safely evacuated from Benghazi.
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aimee says... February 13, 2013 at 1:42 p.m.
Harley:
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I asked for dates and places... I wasn't aware that the PRESIDENT spoke before the hearings... Please let us know which hearings these were, when they were held, and what the president said that you consider a "lie"...
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In other words ---- put up or shut up..!!!!
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T6 says... February 13, 2013 at 3:45 p.m.
Hey Aimee... Obama LIED in front of MILLIONS of people when he address the UN on SEPT. 2012 and apologized for the video that was supposed to have caused the attacks.
"That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity.
It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well -- for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion, we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.
I know there are some who ask why we don’t just ban such a video.
OBAMA knew the from the get go there was NO Flash mob, the drone overhead showed that. He knew the video had nothing to do with the attacks but it didn't stop him and his puppets from repeating it.
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cliffcarson says... February 13, 2013 at 9:30 p.m.
I went to the text of Obama's speech to the UN which was on the 25th of September 2012. The following is what T6 must be referring to when he talks about Obama lying to millions of people about the cause of the raid on the Benghazi facility: From the text of Obama's speech to the UN:
"At time, the conflicts arise along the fault lines of race or tribe, and often they arise from the difficulties of reconciling tradition and faith with the diversity and interdependence of the modern world. In every country, there are those who find different religious beliefs threatening. In every culture, those who love freedom for themselves must ask themselves how much they're willing to tolerate freedom for others. And that is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, where a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well.
For as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion, we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe.
We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them. I know there are some who ask why don't we just ban such a video. The answer is enshrined in our laws. Our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech."
Now what the reader has to understand is that the Video was raising much dissent across the World at the time the Benghazi attack took place. If you will go read the entire speech, not just what I have copied out of it here, you will see much discussion about the video, but never in the Speech did Obama come out and say the attack was done in retaliation for the video, unless you claim my excerpt to be such.
But T6, lets for the sake of argument say that you are right, that Obama is saying the raid took place because of the Video. So if he is lying, then it must have not been because of the Video, that the rioters, or attackers, which ever you prefer, caused the attack on the facility.
So T6 inform us all, why did the attackers storm the facility? We surely would like to know.
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BillSmith says... February 13, 2013 at 11:47 p.m.
T6 does not have a clue.
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harley1305121514 says... February 14, 2013 at 1:59 p.m.
amiee...this is why I say you are an idiot. Where did I say the president spoke before the hearings? You just make crap up as you go! The signs of an idiot!!! I spoke of Panetta testifying at the hearings and you will have to put up or shut up about my saying the president spoke before the hearings!!! T6 has already pointed out the lie!!! These (!!!) represent the number of feathers on an arrow!!!
cliffcarson....I'd like to say I am sorry you wasted your time BUT I don't remember asking you for any help on anything and I don't need your help on anything. If I need your help on something, and that is extremely doubtful, I will sure let you know!!!
By the way....maybe you forgot about the question Panetta couldn't/wouldn't answer when McCain asked him what about the US forces on Crete that were only 90 mins. away and there could have been military forces and aircraft there in only that 90 mins. Panetta failed to answer and McCain said "so you decided to do nothing" and Panetta just looked down.
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morebeer says... February 14, 2013 at 2:30 p.m.
Bill, good post, you got harley to not call you stupid.
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T6 says... February 14, 2013 at 9 p.m.
CliffCarson....I'm not playing your gotcha game. It's truly a sad day when a person can't see a LIE when you read it and hear it.
BillSmith...You are suffering from cranial rectal inversion!
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cliffcarson says... February 15, 2013 at 6:52 a.m.
T6
You and I copied from the same speech text. Since we both copied from the same source, our post should have been the same. If a reader compares what I posted and what you posted, there is very little different, but that difference is important.
I began my copying by posting the sentences of the speech before Obama mentioned the word "Video" so that the reader would know what Obama was saying prior to where you started and I continued to copy verbatim past where you began to copy, and I also continued copying past where you ended. So what I copied included everything that you copied and posted, plus some.
T6, the word verbatim means "exactly as spoken or written". I did this to establish the context of what he was saying, This is something you failed to do. You also removed the word "and" from his speech that connects what he was saying prior to where you started and with his concluding words -what he says about the video.
What I copied verbatim includes ... " And that is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, where a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world"..... ,
and here is what you posted from the same speech: "That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world."....
Notice you left out the word "and" and you changed the word "where" to "as"
So what you did was not exactly as spoken, and your choice of where to begin isolates the words spoken from their context. When you copied, you had to edit your copy to make those subtle differences.
Having pointed these differences out, minor as they are, the important thing is nothing in your or my posting, or in the entirety of the speech, claims that the Benghazi raid happened because of the Video.
So your claim that Obama lied to millions in that speech is totally wrong. Your problem T6 is that you let your imagination run away with facts, leading you to make spurious claims, and when you can't prove what you have claimed by examining the record, you begin to denigrate the people who see a difference in what you present as facts and what the record shows.
This is what make people not only liars , but an obnoxious noise within a polite difference of opinion. When the facts are against you, you become very insulting. But you are not alone. That human frailty is the most visible difference between Republicans and Democrats on this site.
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T6 says... February 15, 2013 at 11:02 p.m.
CliffCarson.... Anal retentive much? What I posted was word for word from whitehouse. gov. I left out no words.
Amazing the length you will go to to try and discredit. If I had wanted to copy and paste the WHOLE freaking speech verbatim, I would have. Obama repeated the LIE about the video in his Sep. 18 appearance on the David Letterman Show. He claimed that the "terrorists" had acted only in response to the anti-Islamic video. And again on September 20 -- President Obama at a town hall meeting organized by the Spanish-language Univision Network, responding to a question about the possible involvement of al Qaeda:
"What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests."
The LIE was repeated until they had to changed the story line. How did the Obama administration know about an obscure film? Who told them the video caused the attacks?
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cliffcarson says... February 16, 2013 at 1:12 a.m.
Sorry T6
I went back and re-read the transcript again and there it was again just exactly as I stated;
So , just for you, I watched and listened to the Video, also available at the speech site.
Do I have to tell you that the words "and" and "where" are there, spoken in the Video?
So once again I copied from the transcript of the speech (I did capitalize the words (and & where) so you could see them better.
President Obama’s 2012 address to U.N. General Assembly (Full text)
"AND that is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, WHERE a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage".......
T6, since I believe in honesty, I will admit that I found several sites that listed the speech just as you copied. So my advice to you is go listen to the Video.
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Reason says... February 16, 2013 at 6:03 a.m.
harley: McCain's question had already been answered. There were NO military personnel at Crete to deploy. Crete personnel were in Europe & Spain.
Now look where General Ham deployed from Europe & Spain.
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T6 says... February 16, 2013 at 10:31 a.m.
Cliff IF the text wasn't verbatim with the youtube vid then BLAME the Whitehouse. gov website! Here's the link......whitehouse. gov/the-press-office/2012/09/25/remarks-president-un-general-assembly
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T6 says... February 16, 2013 at 10:45 a.m.
Cliff you really are pathetic. You disparage me because the text weren't the same then you go off on a different tangent regarding the video. Whether it was text or video Obama still lied. What ? No comment where he repeated the LIE on Letterman and Univision?
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cliffcarson says... February 16, 2013 at 11:44 a.m.
T6
If it is beyond your comprehension why I went to the Video, then any conversation with you is worthless. I think I knew that already. But I chased after what you had written simply to give you a chance to prove that you didn't lie about it.
I probably shouldn't have taken the time to check out several links to see if you had picked up a source different from the source I copied from.
When I found different versions of the "official" text I pointed that out to you. And explained why I went to the video as a referee.
But you are so full of it that the rationale went right by you.
You T5 are a little short and a waste of time.
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Coralie says... February 16, 2013 at 12:15 p.m.
Cliff said "We should have impeached Bush." (and Cheney, Rumsfeld, others)
List of 35 causes for impeachment here:
feralhouse. com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/35_Articles_of_Impeachment. pdf
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Coralie says... February 16, 2013 at 12:21 p.m.
More about the Bush impeachment movement here. Polls showed at least 2/5 of Americans favored this effort in the years 2005-7, but mainstream press did not cover it.
en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W. _Bush
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Coralie says... February 16, 2013 at 12:32 p.m.
Now compare the sort of thing listed as "high crimes and misdemeanors" in order to impeach Obama. impeachobamacampaign. com/25-reasons-to-impeach-obama/
They include:
11. Directing the EPA to unilaterally set carbon emission standards, thus bypassing Congress which opposes Obama’s energy reform bill.
and 4. Obama’s refusal to release his long form birth certificate which would show conclusively that he is a dual citizen and therefore not constitutionally eligible to serve as President.
and 15. Establishment of a commission to investigate the Gulf Coast oil spill that contains not one oil industry expert....
These are not grounds for impeachment, and the others listed are not much better.
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BillSmith says... February 16, 2013 at 11:51 p.m.
T6.........Expand your world and it will expand your mind.
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aimee says... February 17, 2013 at 1:22 a.m.
Coralie:
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Those "offenses" are really laughable, aren't they..??? When will they EVER learn..???
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