Beebe says Darr's signing of guns bill 'inappropriate'
By ANDREW DeMILLO The Associated Press
This article was published February 26, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.
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LITTLE ROCK — Arkansas Gov. Mike Beebe is criticizing Lt. Gov. Mark Darr for making secret the list of Arkansas residents allowed to carry concealed weapons, saying the Republican “embarrassed himself” by signing the legislation while the governor was out of state.
The Democratic governor Tuesday called Darr’s decision to sign the measure “totally inappropriate.” The bill exempts the concealed carry list from the Freedom of Information Act.
Beebe had opposed the measure, but had planned to let it go into law without his signature.
Darr said last week he believed the measure deserved a signature and should be enacted without delay. He signed the measure Friday while Beebe was in Washington for the National Governors Association’s winter meeting.
Beebe said he’ll “much more careful” about leaving the state after Darr’s decision.
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LR1955 says... February 26, 2013 at 11:52 a.m.
I also believe the measure deserved a signature. Beebe, we dont care about your "plans", we care about what you do and have done.
Why don't you eat out at the Red Lobster in WLR, no ASP escort.
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Granny48 says... February 26, 2013 at 12:09 p.m.
What is "inappropriate" about it? Lt. Gov. Darr was left quite lawfully in charge. He merely affixed his signature to a bill that the Governor admits he was going passively to allow to pass. The opportunity was left wide open for a real man to step up and act on his legally ordained convictions and those of his constituents. Lt. Gov. Darr did just that!
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SF72764 says... February 26, 2013 at 12:12 p.m.
I support the bill, but the fact is it was not an emergency bill and could have sat until Beebe returned. Had it been a critical emergency bill I wouldn't object to his signing it.
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ladyLiberty says... February 26, 2013 at 12:14 p.m.
i agree that was underhanded, sneaky and i would not trust Darr out of sight either!
where is the honor and respect in politics?
looks like a gang of cowboys are running this state.
other than Beebe.
the jails will be full of women, doctors, nurses, and democrats if these rednecks get their way!
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NoUserName says... February 26, 2013 at 12:41 p.m.
What other permits are exempt from FOIA? I see no reason to make an exception here. Beebe should have grown a pair and vetoed it.
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Jfish says... February 26, 2013 at 12:43 p.m.
Usually in the long run, you don't gain a whole lot by crossing people who are more powerful and popular than yourself.
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rainbowharold55 says... February 26, 2013 at 1:03 p.m.
REALLY? people here are defending Darr? Stay in town, Mike...maybe he'll crawl back under the rock he came from.
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Murphy01 says... February 26, 2013 at 1:26 p.m.
Did all you bleeding hearts cry foul when democrat Jerry Jewell pardoned a convicted murder, and drug dealer while acting as governor back in the nineties?
Darr put his name on a document. It was going to become law with or without it, big freaking deal.
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rainbowharold55 says... February 26, 2013 at 1:42 p.m.
MURPHY01: Yes, we did. I always call out underhanded behavior and injustices.
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quiet4us2 says... February 26, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.
At least he was working which is more than we can say for you Booboo. And when the "Open Carry" law comes up for signing please go out of town again. Your good at it.
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Pistol says... February 26, 2013 at 2:04 p.m.
Beebe is nothing but a chicken s**t when it comes to the US Constitution, just like the White House he supports. LtGov Darr did the correct thing by signing bill 145 into law. At least he had the fortitude to put his signature on the bill, not like Beebe was going to do by letting it sit on his desk to become law. WAY TO GO, DARR!!!!!
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KingGator says... February 26, 2013 at 2:28 p.m.
Lets see Beebe go eat out at night in Little Rock without his armed body guards. Then he would not be so flippant in his remarks.
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lobotomygal says... February 26, 2013 at 3 p.m.
Lt. Governor Darr not only embarrassed himself and the governor, but he embarrassed the entire state of Arkansas when he signed the bill on Friday making personal information of those who have concealed carry permits no longer subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. No matter how you stand on this issue, it’s dirty politics and puts Mark Darr high on my list of the untrustworthy.
Additionally, Arkansans should think about the implications of this bill. Since the Shady Hook massacre, there has been a lot of discussion about how to stop these senseless killings. Assault weapon arguments notwithstanding, let’s say you have a nutty, paranoid, creepy neighbor. Your kids play in the front yard and occasionally their football goes into his back yard. He’s made ugly remarks to them and even to you. Wouldn’t you want to know if he’s got a concealed carry permit? With all this talk about tightening up the sale of guns to people who have paranoia and delusions, just how can you know if people with a propensity for assaultive or violent behavior is carrying? What if you’re a victim of domestic violence? Would it not be useful information to know if your estranged spouse gets a concealed carry permit the day after the divorce?
This is a bill that only serves to make it easier for people to fall through the cracks. If you’re carrying for protection, wouldn’t it make your swagger a bit stronger if people know you’re packin’?
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Whippersnapper says... February 26, 2013 at 3:19 p.m.
Beebe knew this could happen. He is, after all, a lawyer and alleged expert on the constitution. He had the option to veto the bill and chose not to do so, then with the outcome of this bill up in the air, he chose to leave the state. This is completely unlike somebody coming in and granting pardons with no advance notice while the governor is out of town. Beebe knew the bill was on the governor's desk. If he forgot that the Lt. Governor has this authority, then shame on him. I personally think this is a way for Mike Beebe to try to play to all sides when he runs for senate. He didn't veto this bill and was going to allow it to become law, which appeals to the conservatives. He didn't sign this bill and the opportunity to veto it was taken away by Mark Darr, which appeals to liberals. I think he knew what he was doing all along, and used it on the issue of guns (which is probably more controversial than abortions in Arkansas).
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Packman says... February 26, 2013 at 3:21 p.m.
Beebe knew Darr would sign the bill when he left for the conference. And if he didn't, he's an idiot. The bill passed with tremendous bi-partisan support and deserved to be signed into law. Beebe's a chickenspit for even thinking about not signing it and allowing it to become law in that manner.
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NOTAGAIN says... February 26, 2013 at 4:05 p.m.
Lobotomygal......in response to your statement. It is no body's business who has a CCP except for those that need to know. The public does not. To answer your questions, Assume everyone is packing!! I've been in states where open carry is allowed and I have not seen any. I will say that it would be more comfortable to carry and less to worry about. I would like to think that those with a CCP would be responsible citizens and not flaunt there weapon if open carry were allowed.
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LevyRat says... February 26, 2013 at 4:29 p.m.
RainbowHarold ......... before you start slandering people who disagree with you, you should take a look in the mirror.
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Lakeview says... February 26, 2013 at 7:50 p.m.
Beebe has lost touch. Now says he will be more cautious in leaving the State. Okay, put on a wig and makeup and fly by private plane. Leave the real business of Arkansans to trhe reliable.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... February 26, 2013 at 7:58 p.m.
Harold you never ever call out any Democrats, so quit trying to deceive everyone who does not know you. What you said could possibly be the biggest lie anyone has told on here.
Lobotomygal-do you actually believe knowing someone has a CCP will help you? Do you need a CCP for a 12 gauge, and don't many victims of domestic violence actually have restraining orders? How many RO's are violated every year and people (mainly women) killed with an illegal gun?
The richest part of the argument is all of the people wanting to see these lists are the first ones crawling to the ACLU for having their rights violated for every little thing. That is nothing but the truth popping a cap in your lame brain
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LIVEFROMLONOKE says... February 26, 2013 at 8:01 p.m.
lobotomygal, you have no idea what a conceal carry permit is or the laws surrounding them do you? A conceal carry permit carries not one iota of weight in a person's home, the laws are totally separate. Secondly, since when would it matter if a person was a conceal carry holder or not, if he or she was going to commit a felony crime as you suggest, do you think they give one thought to a class D misdemeanor possession of a weapon charge. Get your head out of the sand and just admit that you are another uninformed liberal that loves to see yourself in print and obviously has never had a confrontation with an attacker with a gun to give you that life-changing experience that it took for many other of my liberal friends had to face before a dose of reality set in on them. No one ever even thought of publishing such a list until some New Yorker got the idea and it was out of spite that he did it. It amazes me that everyone wants to know who the law abiding citizens are that are carrying a gun but no one has ever spent the effort to prosecute the 44,000 some odd people who tried to obtain a firearm while being a convicted felon. What about publishing the list of convicted sex offenders in the newspaper. Wow no one has done that yet. Don't you think that they are much more a threat to society than a person who has gone both an FBI and ASP background check and even their local sheriff and police chief has approved of their being issued a permit to carry a handgun. Geeze!!!!!!!
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... February 26, 2013 at 8:04 p.m.
The Gov. was derelict in his duties by not taking action upon approved legislation.
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The actions and the lack of, of this Gov. make a Republican Governor more viable.
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T6 says... February 26, 2013 at 8:34 p.m.
A leftist idiot no doubt. This gives Gwen Moritz's email. No doubt she'll receive many emails from CCL people who want to express their gratitude.
breitbart. com/Big-Journalism/2013/02/26/Arkansas-Editor-Posts-List-Of-Concealed-Carry-Permit-Holders-Online
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... February 26, 2013 at 8:51 p.m.
The web site has a photo of her and that she and family live in NLR.
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HotSpringsLawyer says... February 26, 2013 at 8:53 p.m.
Still loking for signs of sentient life on this thread.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... February 26, 2013 at 9:23 p.m.
That's the lawyer I want, searching a thread on the Internet
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freedomfighter says... February 26, 2013 at 10:54 p.m.
Hes waiting for the deposit checks to clear on his latest cases.
Hey red, do you know why all lawyers wear neckties?
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NoCrossNoCrown says... February 26, 2013 at 10:54 p.m.
Face it Arkansas, Darr is a stoopid idiot simple minded frat boy wannabe...
He was over his head when he got the job and he still is..
I pray the real governor does not have to leave the state anymore before these fools end this session of the bassackward ledge.......
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SoonerHawg says... February 27, 2013 at 8:18 a.m.
As someone on the list and a supporter of the bill.....I still think its an unethical, back-door politicking, chicken-$hit move.
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Someone asked if the left liked Jewell doing the same type of thing in the 90's? Well, thats about as good an argument as my thirteen year-old uses when I wont let her do some of the dumba$$ things her friends are doing. Do we really want that to be the standard by which our government runs things?
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TruthMachine says... February 27, 2013 at 10:32 a.m.
Beebe said he would let the legislation become law without his signature. With Beebe going to DC, he might have changed his mind. Darr just closed the open door on the legislation and signed it into law. As Lt. Governor, he is entitled to act as governor in Beebe's absence. Beebe's crybaby remarks are not appropriate.
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Walter says... February 27, 2013 at 11:54 a.m.
Mr. Darr put his name on a document. It was going to become law with or without it.
At least he had enough spine to to sign a bill that "Mikey" was just going ignore
because it was against what the liberal democrats in Washington are fighting against.
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dman says... February 27, 2013 at 12:26 p.m.
Letting the bill become law without signing it is a way for the governor to allow something into law that the majority ledge has voted for, while not stamping it with his "approval", which is certainly the case with this. This tool has alway been used by governors everywhere. Not a problem for me.
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rainbowharold55 says... February 27, 2013 at 2:20 p.m.
Read Darr's arrogant statement on this situation.
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lobotomygal says... February 28, 2013 at 9:42 a.m.
Live from....you missed the point of my post. Read it again...
People want to know if my nutty neighbor...guy you just fired or ex husband pick up a CC the day after you have a big fight. Do I think someone with a CC will help me? Wish they wouldn't ....they'll just get me killed.
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