Obama unveils $500 million gun-violence package
By The Associated Press
This article was originally published January 16, 2013 at 10:32 a.m. Updated January 16, 2013 at 1:30 p.m.
PHOTO BY AP/PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS
President Barack Obama answers questions in the East Room of the White House in Washington in this Jan. 14, 2103, file photo.
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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is announcing a $500 million package of executive actions and legislative proposals aimed at reducing gun violence a month after a mass shooting in Connecticut killed 20 elementary school children.
The package includes a call on Congress to ban military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and it would shore up the gun sale background-check system.
Obama also is signing 23 executive actions, which require no congressional approval, including several aimed at improving access to data for background checks. A presidential memorandum will instruct the Centers for Disease Control to research causes and prevention of gun violence.
Obama is asking Congress to expand background checks on gun buyers to include private sales and is using his executive authority to increase the information available in data banks in the background check system. The White House says nearly 40 percent of gun sales are conducted by private individuals now exempt from checking the backgrounds of buyers.
He also ordered a review of standards for gun locks and a tracing of guns recovered in criminal investigations.
Obama is also ordering federal agencies to make “relevant data” available to the federal background check system and to remove barriers that might prevent states from providing information, particularly mental-health data, for background checks.
But the president, speaking at the White House, acknowledged the most effective actions must be taken by lawmakers.
“To make a real and lasting difference, Congress must act,” Obama said. “And Congress must act soon.”
Obama was flanked by children who wrote him letters about gun violence in the weeks after the Newtown, Conn., shooting. Families of the 20 children killed in the massacre, as well as survivors, were also in the audience along with law enforcement officers and members of Congress.
“This is our first task as a society, keeping our children safe,” Obama said. “This is how we will be judged.”
The president based his proposals on recommendations from an administrationwide task force led by Vice President Joe Biden.
Below are the administration's proposals for curbing gun violence.
NEEDS CONGRESSIONAL ACTION:
- Requiring background checks on all gun sales. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence says 40 percent of gun sales are conducted with no criminal background check, such as at gun shows and by private sellers over the Internet or through classified ads. Obama said there should be exceptions for cases like certain transfers among family members and temporary transfers for hunting purposes.
- Reinstating the assault weapons ban. A 10-year ban on high-grade, military-style weapons expired in 2004. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., says such a ban might clear the Senate but doubts it could get through the House.
- Renewing a 10-round limit on the size of ammunition magazines.
- Prohibiting the possession, transfer, manufacture and import of dangerous armor-piercing bullets.
- Senate confirmation of a director for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The agency has been run by an acting director, Todd Jones, whom Obama will nominate to become director.
- New gun trafficking laws penalizing people who help criminals get guns.
EXECUTIVE ORDER:
- Address legal barriers in health laws that bar some states from making available information about people who are prohibited from having guns.
- Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
- Make sure that federal agencies share relevant information with the background check system.
- Direct the attorney general to work with other agencies to review existing laws to make sure they can identify individuals who shouldn’t have access to guns.
- Direct the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other research agencies to conduct research into the causes and prevention of gun violence.
- Clarify that no federal law prohibits doctors or other health-care providers from contacting authorities when patients threaten to use violence.
- Give local communities the opportunity to hire up to 1,000 school resource officers and counselors.
- Require federal law enforcement to trace all recovered guns.
- Propose regulations that will enable law enforcement to run complete background checks before returning firearms that have been seized.
- Direct the Justice Department to analyze information on lost and stolen guns and make that information available to law enforcement.
- Provide training for state and local law enforcement, first responders and school officials on how to handle active-shooter situations.
- Make sure every school has a comprehensive emergency management plan.
- Help ensure that young people get needed mental health treatment.
- Ensure that health-insurance plans cover mental-health benefits.
- Encourage development of new technology to make it easier for gun owners to safely use and store their guns.
- Have the Consumer Product Safety Commission assess the need for new safety standards for gun locks and gun safes.
- Launch a national campaign about responsible gun ownership.
Read tomorrow's Arkansas Democrat-Gazette for full details.
Information for this article was contributed by Bloomberg News.
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brado says... January 16, 2013 at 11:28 a.m.
Which one of these proposals would have stopped the violence at Sandy Hook?
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mhck52 says... January 16, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.
Can't Washington do anything that doesn't involve spending our money?
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... January 16, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.
He still has not explained Fast and Furious ie gun running by the Fed's.
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RichardJ says... January 16, 2013 at 11:37 a.m.
These laws will do nothing, they are just a political move by this administration to appease an interest group and make headlines in the press. Have you ever heard of the black market, drugs are illegal, yet they are easily trafficked in from Mexico.
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BillSmith says... January 16, 2013 at 11:41 a.m.
1934cartoon....you need to ask the Bush administration to explain the idea of fast and furious.
The practice of "gun walking," or letting guns be bought illegally in Arizona with the idea of tracing them back to drug cartel kingpins in Mexico, was first tried in 2006 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The investigation was called Operation Wide Receiver.
ATF agents decided in the fall of 2009 to start up the gun-walking practice again. This program was called Operation Fast and Furious. A year later, one of the guns was found at the scene of a shootout that left a Border Patrol agent dead, leading to a congressional investigation.
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RZRBKINTXS says... January 16, 2013 at 11:45 a.m.
Shamelsess how he paraded those children and victims in front of the cameras to generate sympathy. (Children he would have gladly allowed you to murder in the womb)
And I'd also like to meet this "majority of NRA members" who are in favor of these measures.
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jhog says... January 16, 2013 at 11:46 a.m.
This is truly unbelievable. Poof... $500 Million... Where is this money coming from? Its sad when All Americans including the sacred "Middle Class" See taxes go up in Jan. while he 'promised' to help the middle class. Now, he waves the magic wand and gets, wants, $500 million. Wake up America.
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BlueEyes says... January 16, 2013 at 11:47 a.m.
1) $500 Million plan.....will this be paid for by raising of the debt ceiling?
2) How does he plan to get around HIPPA (patient privacy) laws?
3) Does he really need to use Children sell his package? Isn't his "leadership" enough?
4) Which one of his proposals will actually STOP the violent 'solutions ' of people who are obviously mentally ill?
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... January 16, 2013 at 11:55 a.m.
BS reread your posting. You made yourself look like a fool.
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inquire says... January 16, 2013 at 12:01 p.m.
Bill Smith is the smartest and best informed person on here.
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... January 16, 2013 at 12:02 p.m.
BlueEyes good point on the HIPPA laws, then after that the person then would have to be adjudicated by a real judge.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... January 16, 2013 at 12:05 p.m.
In a related story Obama failed a simple math test. When the question was how much money do you need to pay for a $500 television he said $300 and let my grandkids pay for the rest.
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CitizenEngineer says... January 16, 2013 at 12:09 p.m.
His arm in the photo was supposed to be at a little steeper angle and out in front! :-)
(It's a joke folks!!!)
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Reason says... January 16, 2013 at 12:13 p.m.
23 Executive Orders:
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1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system."
2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system."
3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system."
4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."
5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun."
6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers."
7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign."
8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)."
9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations."
10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement."
11. "Nominate an ATF director."
12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations."
13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime."
14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."
15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies."
16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."
17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."
18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers."
19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education."
20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."
21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."
22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."
23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."
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Jfish says... January 16, 2013 at 12:13 p.m.
inquire, do you have access to everyone's IQ scores or is that just your opinion because you agree with Bill's posts?
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BpLrAr says... January 16, 2013 at 12:31 p.m.
If someone were shooting at me, I’d much prefer that they did NOT have an automatic or semi-automatic weapon with a high capacity clip. The Sandyhook shooter’s mommy was the gun owner (legally); so it’s actually gun-nut-mommy’s fault her disturbed son was able to access those weapons. If she were still alive, would she/should she have been held legally accountable? No law would have prevented those shootings. But does that mean lawmakers should not even try to make it harder for criminals & crazies to get their hands on a weapon (legally or illegally)? And how many “legitimate” gun sellers really care whether or not a buyer is sane, or law abiding? Too many gun sellers only care about making money, not about the legal or moral qualifications & intentions of their buyers. And that is everybody’s problem because you never know when YOU will end up being a target (accidentally or on purpose). And carrying a gun around yourself won’t prevent it. $500 million is chump change when looking at the entire federal spending picture.
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WTR44 says... January 16, 2013 at 12:31 p.m.
500 million dollars? A country who is drowning in red ink that is quite likely to be more devastating than any assualt weapon we, or anyone else, has, or ever had just don't ring up as making any sense! I recognize the fact we have a problem, but 500 million? Thats real money that the taxpayer is going to have to pay, and thats after the 15 trillion we already owe. The US government is a gigantic ponsi scheme, that anyone else would be put in jail for.
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jhog says... January 16, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.
What is shameful beyond the $500 million, disregarding the 2nd amendment, is the parading of kids around him to announce the asinine bill. Whose great idea was that? I don't even own a gun.
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coyote says... January 16, 2013 at 12:46 p.m.
What is the deal Mr. President? How many people does it take to get your attention? It isn't shored up background checks, or bans on certain weapons, or spent money on state authority controlling all of us, but a ARMED POLICEMAN in every school WHILE KIDS ARE ON SITE that is the only way to send the message!
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jhog says... January 16, 2013 at 12:51 p.m.
Last comment... What's next; our Books, our computers? History repeats itself.
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SRBROTHERINLAW says... January 16, 2013 at 1:14 p.m.
Here we go the start of communism by the tearing down of the constitution one step at a time.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... January 16, 2013 at 1:46 p.m.
jfish being able to read newspaper articles and agreeing with you makes BillSmith the smartest person on here, in inquireworld.
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jetjohn says... January 16, 2013 at 1:48 p.m.
And what does Obummer plan to do about gun-running Eric Holder????? None of these 23 actions would have prevented the trajedy at Sany Hook! This is just another way Obummer wants to take away liberties from every single American!!! IMPEACH THIS MAN NOW!!!!!
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StrayGoose says... January 16, 2013 at 2:20 p.m.
Don't know where the first comment went...the Obummer word of the day is "sordid"...he just did the Riverdance on the graves of children for political purposes.
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jeffieboy says... January 16, 2013 at 2:51 p.m.
So he wants to track everything I do with my guns, like he wants to track your car mileage, wants an "assualt" weapons ban so only the government has "sophisticated" high tech weapons, wants to ban "dangerous armor piercing bullets" when only police and government are allowed to buy bullet resistant and bullet proof vests, put a 10 round limit on magazines except for the government and police, and in a truely hilarious turn create gun trafficking laws penalizing people who help criminals get guns. I wonder if that will be retroactive to Holder and "Fast and Furious"? Then he signs a bunch of executive orders that largely do nothing but spend more of our money ineffectual expansions of government power and influence expecting productive taxpayers to foot the bill. He makes this announcement surrounded by children in a photo op that reminds one of the tactics of Hitller and Saddam Hussein saying our number one priority is to protect our children. The truth in this "bait and switch" is that Obama's number one priority is to disarm and subjugate the American people he hasn't been able to control with bribes at the government trough. This guy wants American Patriots to take him seriously? What a remarkably transparent silly, insignificant, foolish dolt.
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jorb says... January 16, 2013 at 2:53 p.m.
OK Bill Smith you are right,It,s George Bushs fault.He shut down gun running in his admin.President Obama came into office in 2009.Liked Bushs policies and started up Fast and Furious.Wonder if they registered these guns?Wonder if we could get George Bush back.
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jbmccr says... January 16, 2013 at 3:04 p.m.
I see a lot of complaining on here but no solutions/suggestions. It's easy to complain.
Someone suggested school guards. How are you going to pay for that?
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jeffieboy says... January 16, 2013 at 3:10 p.m.
Hey Obama, quit exploiting our children, OK? Using them to promote your agenda is disgusting. Unscrupulous people like you say do it for your country, do it for your community, do it for your neighbors, do it for your family, and oh yes, do it for the chiildren! This is one of the most common and effective "bait and switch" tactics ever used by a despot. Use a noble idea to promote an ignoble cause. You are transparently revealing Mr. Obama. Such behavior from one of the leaders of the greatest nation on earth is lamentable and embarassing.
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jbmccr says... January 16, 2013 at 3:25 p.m.
jeffieboy, what is his "agenda"?
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lazybar says... January 16, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.
jb so your agreeing with obozo that the solution is to punish the law abiding citizen?why not just enforce the laws we already have before added more.
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Reason says... January 16, 2013 at 3:34 p.m.
Mental illness and guns don't mix. The paranoia is jumping off these post.
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What is Paranoia?
Paranoia involves feelings of persecution and an exaggerated sense of self-importance. Paranoia occurs in many mental disorders and is rare as an isolated mental illness. Since the delusions involve only one area, a person with paranoia can usually work and function in everyday life, however, their lives may be limited and isolated. There are different types of paranoia including conjugal paranoia, erotomania, hypochondriacal paranoia, and different types of paranoid disorders such as paranoid personality and paranoid schizophrenia.
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Symptoms of Paranoia:
Symptoms of paranoia and paranoid disorders include intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion, which can bring on sense of rage, hatred, and betrayal. Some people suffering from paranoid personality may have a high capacity to annoy or enrage others because of rigid and maladaptive behavior. Some identifiable beliefs and actions of paranoid-related disorders include mistrust, taking offense easily, difficulty with forgiveness, defensive attitude in response to imagined criticism, preoccupation with hidden motives, fear of being deceived or taken advantage of, inability to relax, argumentative, abrupt, stubborn, self-righteous, and perfectionistic.
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djigoo says... January 16, 2013 at 4:29 p.m.
Different day, same KKKrazies.
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lazybar says... January 16, 2013 at 4:56 p.m.
goo with that great education you claim to have and thats the best you can do?i figure most kkk members do support gun rights but i doubt very many gun right members support the kkk.now i`d love to hear how you think supporting gun rights makes one kkkrazy.no bashing,grammer police,or name calling just a simple explanation of why you think we are kkkrazy.
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jbmccr says... January 16, 2013 at 5:06 p.m.
lazybar, where did I say that I agreed with the president? What laws would you have enforced?
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Danfieldinc says... January 16, 2013 at 6:17 p.m.
Wait a minute. Isn't this the same guy who lectured congress about taxes and spending on national TV last night? His answer to this issue is to tack on 1/2 billion dollars for some program designed more for his legacy than for protecting against mass murders? WTF?
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ladyLiberty says... January 16, 2013 at 7:14 p.m.
reason
thanks for the information well written too.
i suppose you are referring to JeffieBoy as the paranoid?
i got him on that in another paper blog. his fear is controling him
and is not rational. that does not make jb mentally ill , just wake
up and get to know yourself. challenge those fears and see if they are actually
true JB.
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Jackabbott says... January 16, 2013 at 7:34 p.m.
A good start. Reading some of the responses here, you can see some of the "mentally challenged" are ready to pull the trigger. Too bad Wyatt Earp and Matt Dillon aren't around to handle them.
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BillSmith says... January 16, 2013 at 7:50 p.m.
Hey, right wing gun nuts, which of these guys is the liberal on this issue?
Ford, Carter, Reagan Push for Gun Ban
May 05, 1994|WILLIAM J. EATON | TIMES STAFF WRITER
Three former presidents endorsed legislation Wednesday to ban the future manufacture, sale and possession of combat-style assault weapons as a closely divided House neared a showdown today on the hotly controversial issue.
Gerald R. Ford, Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan sent a letter to all House members expressing their support for the measure, effectively joining President Clinton in urging approval of the ban.
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BillSmith says... January 16, 2013 at 8:17 p.m.
fairandbalanced,packman,1934cartoon,.........
Where was all the outrage because these three sent a letter to congress supporting the ban? Do you not understand what this says "RONALD REAGAN"! The "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" guy. What has changed in the republican party, I'll tell you, a black man was elected president, the tea party's rise in the party and the growth of the gun nuts that think they need their Bushmaster to fight US troops when they come to take their guns. By the way the Florida "Tea Party" is changing it's name because of the negative views the current name bestows on them, but a leopard does not change its spots, they still espouse the same policies. Show up a political rallies with a Bushmaster slung over their sholder and Glock on their hip wearing a "Don't Tread on Me" tee shirt. And they wonder why young children write letters to the President in support of gun control. Folks, these young children will be the voters of tomorrow, GOP, you are on the wrong side of this argument as you were on most issues in the last election.
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inquire says... January 16, 2013 at 8:51 p.m.
Bravo!
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djigoo says... January 16, 2013 at 9:29 p.m.
Thank you, BillSmith. You certainly speak for me.
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aimee says... January 17, 2013 at 2 a.m.
The President has provided common sense solutions to the epidemic of gun violence in America. It's the far Right whose lack of common sense prevents them from recognizing it. They need to remove their NRA blinders and see what the rest of us envision for America - NOT a society of survivalists, but a society of peace loving sportsmen and hunters.
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lazybar says... January 17, 2013 at 9:02 a.m.
the last ban proved that a ban on military styled firearms and high cap mags did not curve violence.ok so we are going to ban them anyway,so what happens next year when someone takes out a number of people at a long range with a deer rifle?oh but wait obozo is not going after sporting rifles.bull he will use anything he can to push his agenda,just like using little kids.as i watched his speech i noticed he only had antigun kids there,there were none from groups like 4h shooting sports,aysp,or cmp.what about the kids that firearms made a positive impact on thier lives?
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Packman says... January 17, 2013 at 10:07 a.m.
Hey BillSmith - Having been called out by name, I must respond. On other threads hereof and in numerous instances I've voiced support for common sense gun laws that more than likely infringe on the 2nd Amendment but are nevertheless reasonable. I support gun buy-back programs; I support dealer background checks; I support prohibitions against minors, felons convicted due to gun violence, the mentally insane possessing a firearm, and other measures. What I do not support are laws that have ZERO effect and only proposed for political folly. Is that really so difficult to understand? Guess so, if you're a liberal idiot.
Hey jbmcrr - Good question on funding the NRA safe schools proposal. The funding could come from a federal excise tax already being collected on the sale of guns and ammo now diverted to the states for wildlife management and to build shooting ranges.
Are you liberal anti-gun nuts not fundamentally ashamed that BH is using kids as pawns in his war on law-abiding citizens? This is the most shameless act I've ever witnessed from a POTUS since Bill Clinton lied about his hummer from "that woman, Lewinsky". Do liberals have no shame? You disgust me BH Obama. The thought occurs that BH Obama is purposefully dividing America with his attack on gun owners, the "wealthy", pro-lifers, and anyone who supports a smaller federal government. Does anyone know why he so badly wants the divisiveness? What would be the purpose?
Speaking of abusing little children, killing them in the womb is OK with BH Obama. That fact cannot be overlooked when he or any other radical liberal plays the "save the innocent children" card. They have ZERO credibility when it comes to saving lives. ZERO.
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BillSmith says... January 17, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
Packman.....do support 100% background checks for all guns sold by dealer or private sellers. and at gun shows?
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... January 17, 2013 at 12:12 p.m.
Hey BillSmith - Having been called out by name, I must ask, What point(s) in your rant that runs all over the place, are you trying to make, other than you continually make a fool of yourself and draw fools for support?
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In other news this universal back ground check(s) for private firearms sales is another way for a Nation registration to be set into place. ... The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence history. … The Brady Campaign emerged from Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI), originally the National Council to Control Handguns (NCCH), and the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (CPHV). On June 14, 2001, Handgun Control, Inc. was renamed the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. SEE “a leopard does not change its spots” here either. … In January 2010, the Better Business Bureau published its Charity Review on the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, stating that it failed to meet five (of twenty) standards for charity accountability.
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The President has not provided any common sense solutions to the epidemic of gun violence in America. Just look at the South side of Chicago. It is a criminal problem. … Just a reminder, the Second Amendment never has been about hunting.
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I've read the letter that former presidents Gerald R. Ford, Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan sent to all House members, it is still a criminal problem, not guns.
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Whippersnapper says... January 17, 2013 at 2:31 p.m.
So, BillSmith dug up the fact that Jimmy Carter (who feared killer rabbits as much as he feared "assault rifles"), Gerald Ford (who was never elected President OR Vice President), and Ronald Reagan (who by 1994 was coincidentally already diagnosed as having Alzheimer's) supported the ban of "combat-style assault weapons." Wow. Let's examine this further.
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Ask yourself two questions:
1) What part of "combat-style assault weapons" includes the civilian versions that don't work the same way as the military models? (i.e. one trigger pull = one bullet for the civilian style versus one trigger pull = as many bullets as the gun holds for the military combat-style weapons)
2) What was Ronald Reagan's stated opinion on gun rights when he was of sound mind in the early eighties and he had been shot by a "rampaging gunman"?
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lazybar says... January 17, 2013 at 4:55 p.m.
when 2nd was written,the public that could afford a miltary grade firearm owned one.not many years later before the military adapted to a better firearm the rifle was already in place among a good number of the public.
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BillSmith says... January 19, 2013 at 10:27 a.m.
Stufit....I don't remember ringing your bell, are you and packman one of the same?
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... January 19, 2013 at 2:01 p.m.
As the gun and ammo industries laugh all the way to the bank. You have to admit the liberals are good for the economy, at least for now
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Packman says... January 19, 2013 at 9:43 p.m.
Hey BillSmith - "Packman.....do support 100% background checks for all guns sold by dealer or private sellers and at gun shows?" Do not.
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BillSmith says... January 20, 2013 at 12:17 a.m.
Do you support background checks at all?
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inquire says... January 20, 2013 at 1:12 a.m.
Without background checks, there is no impediment to selling to the mentally ill or convicted felons, which is why gun shows are so popular. They'll sell to anybody with money, and society be dammed.
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... January 20, 2013 at 6:20 a.m.
I do not support back ground checks by private sellers. This is only a back door to a National data base for gun owners. Germany comes to mind.
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BillSmith ... Please note your posting on January 16, 2013 at 8:17 p.m., then reread your post on, January 19, 2013 at 10:27 a.m. in regards to the posting that I made on, January 17, 2013 at 12:12 p.m. Thanks.
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RonalFos says... January 20, 2013 at 8:10 a.m.
Without universal background checks improved mental health services and reporting will have no effect on unstable people being armed. Not to mention felons who easily get armed because of the gaps in background checks. If you want your assault type weapons at all, you better be for universal background checks.
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... January 20, 2013 at 8:53 a.m.
Felons steal or have stolen the firearms they have, not by buying them, that cost to much.
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Improved mental health services and reporting will have a effect on unstable people not being armed.
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harley1305121514 says... January 20, 2013 at 10:02 a.m.
Hey Stuffit & Packman......Mr. Bill wants to know if you guys are one in the same. (Billy's post on 1/19/13 @10:27am)
I think I just figured out that Billy and inquire are one of the same! Billy says some stupid crap and then as inquire he post how great his other post was or post something about being the smartest man posting. Notice how inquire seems to just pop up bragging on Billy just after his post? They are the same nuts! Or maybe hubby and wife!!!
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RonalFos says... January 20, 2013 at 10:28 a.m.
"Improved mental health services and reporting will have a effect on unstable people not being armed." Only if there is a accurate and complete background check on every gun purchase. Otherwise, they can just go to a gun show or private seller and bypass any check that would catch them.
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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... January 20, 2013 at 10:32 a.m.
harley ... No matter which, Bill and inquire deserve each other.
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Jjackk says... January 20, 2013 at 10:46 a.m.
Exactly what I thought, all that will happen will be lots of money spent. They'll fight and argue over policy. They'll agree to old policy and it will cost us billions, more than this 1/2 billion will be spent.
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inquire says... January 20, 2013 at 11:38 a.m.
You gun nuts continue to prove just exactly how crazy you are and that you should never have access to weapons. I don't believe the ADG would permit more than one account generated from the same IP address.
I have never seen any liberal poster act so crazy as to suggest that any of the right wingers are married or using two accounts for one person. This is what right wingers do when they get frustrated that their kind are now in the minority.
My husband is actually less liberal than I on some issues, but he deplores the unfounded hatred of President Obama, the barely concealed racism, the way conservatives lie to try to get their way, the way they try to hide behind God while doing the opposite of what the Bible says,and the gun culture. He also refuses to waste any time interacting with crazy conservatives on the web, so he has never been on here.
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harley1305121514 says... January 20, 2013 at 1:23 p.m.
inquire.....Hey Bill, I expected you to answer in such a manner! inquire Bill, where did you come up with the racism? Tell us more about the "God, the Bible and gun culture" connection.
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harley1305121514 says... January 20, 2013 at 1:27 p.m.
inquireBill......by the way.....it was under the post name BillSmith that the first suggestion of more than one account being posted under the same IP address! Do you still think Billy is the smartest man posting?? Come on....don't be a hypocrite!!
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inquire says... January 20, 2013 at 4:08 p.m.
You are ludicrous.
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BarichMilhusseinObamaNixonPOTUS says... January 20, 2013 at 7:07 p.m.
Harley don't you know liberals don't lie, cheat, or steal? If you catch them they try to change the subject. However they are easy to pick on
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harley1305121514 says... January 21, 2013 at 2:26 a.m.
inquire.....you made those statements! Since Billy started the one in the same and you object to that.....answer my question.....do you still think Billy is the smartest man around??? So far you only prove to be a hypocrite!
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BillSmith says... January 22, 2013 at 10:49 p.m.
Steve Kozachik is vice mayor and a member of the Tucson City Council
I was a Republican at the time, but less than one week after the buyback, I chose to switch parties. I believe there is a centrist element among the rank and file in the GOP, but the leadership is led by the far right and openly beholden to the NRA and the gun lobby. It is that rigid ideology that is driving the party into irrelevancy. The overreaction to the gun buyback made it clear that, in Tucson at least, the Republican Party is out of touch with the values of the community.
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