Army says crashed copter had life vests, air bottles

Water safety officials hand over possible debris from an Army UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crash to military personnel stationed at a command center in a harbor, Wednesday, August 16, 2017 in Haleiwa, HI. An Army helicopter with five on board crashed several miles off Oahu's North Shore late Tuesday. Rescue crews are searching the waters early Wednesday.
Water safety officials hand over possible debris from an Army UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crash to military personnel stationed at a command center in a harbor, Wednesday, August 16, 2017 in Haleiwa, HI. An Army helicopter with five on board crashed several miles off Oahu's North Shore late Tuesday. Rescue crews are searching the waters early Wednesday.

HONOLULU -- All five crew members aboard a Black Hawk helicopter that crashed over the Pacific had life vests and an air bottle for underwater breathing, but Army officials and rescuers searching the turbulent waters off Hawaii for days had not seen signs of life as of early Saturday.

Crews of Black Hawk helicopters undergo underwater crash and survival training before they go to Hawaii, said Master Sgt. Peter Mayes, a spokesman for the 25th Infantry Division. Soldiers simulate being on board a helicopter that's crashed into the water and learn how to free themselves.

Mayes said there was no life raft on board the helicopter because operating procedure only calls for rafts when non-crew member soldiers or people without life vests are on board.

Army officials have spent days sifting through chunks of helicopter debris since the aircraft crashed during nighttime training on Tuesday.

The U.S. Coast Guard said Friday that it is searching up to 50 miles off the remote point where the UH-60 helicopter crashed west of Oahu. Shifting waters and swift currents spread debris from 2 miles offshore on Tuesday night to the expanded 50-mile search area.

Firefighters found and collected what appeared to be pieces of helicopter fuselage and a helmet earlier in the week. The Coast Guard said responders continue to find debris, but didn't have specifics on what kind.

The Navy brought remotely operated underwater vehicles and sonar to help. On Friday, they searched waters about a mile off the coast, said Lt. Col. Curtis Kellogg, a spokesman for the Army's 25th Infantry Division.

The ocean floor drops quickly off Oahu and varies throughout the search area. It is over 1,000 feet deep at the center of a safety zone established by the Coast Guard for the search.

The safety zone extends from a 5-mile radius around the last known location of the helicopter. The Coast Guard set it up because it's likely to have a higher concentration of debris and be where most of the search aircraft and vessels are operating. It's not allowing civilians to enter the area.

A Coast Guard HC-130 plane helping with the search was using radar that's designed to search the surface of the ocean, said spokesman Chief Petty Officer Sara Muir. An MH-65 helicopter was using infrared technology, she said.

Asked whether sharks would be a concern, Muir said there were marine predators in the area.

"That is expected and perfectly normal for this region," she said.

Mario Vittone, a retired Coast Guardsman and expert on sea survival, said how long people survive in the water depends on their age, weight and health in addition to water and air temperatures.

Searches in colder climates where water drops below 60 degrees may get called off after a day. In Hawaii, they often last longer. Last year, a search for 12 Marines who disappeared after two helicopters collided off Hawaii lasted five days. Remains of nine Marines were found. Three were never recovered.

The recovery of debris indicates the Black Hawk hit the water uncontrolled, Vittone said. This would mean there's a low probability anyone survived, but he said the rescuers can't and don't assume that.

The two Black Hawk crews were conducting training between Kaena Point and Dillingham Airfield when communications were lost.

The two helicopters are part of the 25th Combat Aviation Brigade based in Hawaii.

A Section on 08/20/2017

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