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Florida students push for gun-law changes; confronting legislators, they urge ‘action’

By Compiled by Democrat-Gazette staff from wire reports

This article was published February 22, 2018 at 4:30 a.m.

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Young protesters rally Wednesday outside the Florida Capitol in Tallahassee to call for tougher laws on assault rifles. Lawmakers said they would reconsider allowing 18-year-olds to buy such weapons.

President Donald Trump joins in an opening prayer Wednesday with Julia Cordover (left), student body president at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School...

Marjory Stoneman Douglas student Samuel Zeif cries after speaking at Wednesday’s White House listening session. “Woke up to the news that my best fri...

Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas meet with Florida state legislators at the Capitol in Tallahassee. “We know what we want. We want gun reform. W...

Thousands of Florida high school students and protesters rallied Wednesday at the state Capitol to demand that lawmakers take action in the final weeks of the legislative session to curb the sale of assault-style rifles.

President Donald Trump joins in an opening prayer Wednesday with Julia Cordover (left), student body president at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School...

Marjory Stoneman Douglas student Samuel Zeif cries after speaking at Wednesday’s White House listening session. “Woke up to the news that my best fri...

Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas meet with Florida state legislators at the Capitol in Tallahassee. “We know what we want. We want gun reform. W...

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RBear says... February 22, 2018 at 6:04 a.m.

These students are starting to see the insanity that has been created by the NRA firsthand as they go to their state capitol to lobby for better gun control. Representatives and senators who either will not meet with them face to face or give them non-committal answers, but will take the call of an NRA lobbyist in a heartbeat. While many may not be able to vote, they will be turning 18 in months and years and will remember that experience more than anything. When you lose a classmate, the sorrow lingers and the actions afterwards do also.
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Right now, legislators in both state capitols and DC are offering marginal changes that don't really impact the problem. Yes, they address a few situations but the root cause of these mass shootings has proven to be assault rifles such as AR-15 style weapons. A return to the AWB will go a long ways in dealing with mass shootings as it did during the 10 years it was in effect. When the ban was lifted, deaths from mass shootings starting climbing again.
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With regards to arming teachers, once again that is a proposal that sounds good to gun nuts on the surface but hasn't been thought through, just as additional security hasn't. It's yet another attempt at fix without addressing the root cause. The reason it's not sound is that those weapons must be locked away during school hours. Having them unlocked or on the teacher creates numerous safety issues and many parents will not want their children in such a classroom.
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Having armed guards is not a solution either since you would need so many to address the issue, it would bankrupt school district budgets to pay for the guards. Putting metal detectors would do the same. Securing the campus to reduce guards and detectors would all but turn the campus into a prison. All this because gun nuts will not agree to an AWB for a gun that has no useful purpose other than to kill.
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What has become even worse is to read the disgusting attacks by gun nuts and alt-right sites who accused David Hogg of being a "crisis actor." I've even seen some comments in here from people, but fortunately they have subsided as the details emerged. If this is the only way you think you can have discussion, STFU.
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Yesterday, several of us were accused of trying to politicize this and not carrying about school children. LET'S BE REAL CLEAR ABOUT THIS. At no time have many of us EVER called for a full ban on weapons, but have only called for reinstatement of the AWB. We have seen the data, both from the AWB period and from nations around the world, and the root cause is clear. Assault weapons result in a rise in deaths from mass shootings. We care about children enough to go after the root cause. If we wanted to politicize this, we would go for full ban but we haven't. We also don't want marginal "solutions" that do nothing to really address the issue and just kick the can down the road.

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RBear says... February 22, 2018 at 6:51 a.m.

What is even more disgusting about this issue with the president is that he needed crib notes to remind him to express empathy. #5 on his notes for the “listening” session, “I hear you.” This shows how difficult it is for this president to connect with average Americans. He requires notes to coach him.

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BOLTAR says... February 22, 2018 at 7:20 a.m.

Politicians like French Hill who are wholly owned by the NRA need to find a job outside government.

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BoudinMan says... February 22, 2018 at 8:28 a.m.

Well, at least the FL repubs declared porn a health risk. That should make those students feel safer. Snark, off.

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hah406 says... February 22, 2018 at 9:15 a.m.

It speaks to the power the NRA currently has over legislators, particularly at the state level, where anything but an A+ rating from them can cost you an election. These kids are the first group that has the means to counter the power of the NRA. And they have the moral high ground, considering the NRA advocates for laws (or the lack of them) that enable these school shootings to happen. French Hill should remember that. Every dollar he takes from the NRA has the blood of children on it.

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sjmays says... February 22, 2018 at 9:19 a.m.

I have some hope now that maybe something can be done. There will not be any help from the NRA. They may come to regret the attitude.

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GeneralMac says... February 22, 2018 at 9:36 a.m.

So many of the "usual suspects" favoring targeting politicians who don't tow the line on gun control.

Isn't that what happened awhile back right here in Arkansas?
Sen Mark Pryor (D-AR) refused to tow the line and support a gun control bill that Barack HUSSEIN Obama wanted passed.
The mayor of New York City ( Bill Blowhard) and announced that DEMOCRATS who broke ranks would be targeted for defeat. He specifically mentioned Mark Pryor (D-AR )

Bill Blowhard got his revenge and Mark Pryor (D-AR) got defeated.
How do you gun control liberals like that Tom Cotton?
I like him !

Remember, when Democrats start giving gun control litmus tests you will see Democrats in rural areas LOSE.

Have at it !

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RBear says... February 22, 2018 at 9:40 a.m.

The key is pure focus of message. Reinstate the AWB from 1994 which showed effectiveness in drastically reducing deaths from mass shootings and has proven to be effective in nations around the world. It’s hard to argue against and has proven to hold up to legal challenge. It also is not an affront to the 2nd Amendment.
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All other “solutions” are just more of the same, if not more guns. The NRA will come up with a jillion diversions which we have seen posted by gun nuts in here. It’s time to focus on protecting school children and the most effective method has been to remove the weapon of choice of mass shootings.

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RBear says... February 22, 2018 at 9:42 a.m.

So there we have it. Any measures to protect citizens with reasonable controls is unacceptable for gun nuts. They don’t care about protecting citizens. They are more concerned about keeps their dangerous weapons at any cost.

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GeneralMac says... February 22, 2018 at 9:47 a.m.

" ban all guns"
"show a need"
"let's copy Germany"
"let's copy Japan"

Keep up the hysteria and by the time elections are over more Democrats will be defeated in the US.

We are not Germany ( RBear praised their gun control laws) where you have to " show a need" to own a gun and self'home protection is NOT a need.
German citizens have no 2nd Amendment right to bear arms like the US does yet that didn't stop RBear from praising Germany's gun control.

Japan?..........nearly impossible for a citizen to own a gun. Japan's citizens have no 2nd Amendment right to bear arms either.

There are hundreds of thousands of AR-15 in the hands of law abiding citizens who use them for sport shooting, varmit hunting, and game hunting.

But as always, liberals believe in punishing /restricting the owners of the 99.999% AR-15 that never were used in a crime.

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