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BRADLEY R. GITZ: The conservative evolution

By Bradley R. Gitz

This article was published June 18, 2018 at 4:30 a.m.

The election of Barack Obama was widely thought to represent a dramatic advance for racial progress and reconciliation. Attitudes had clearly changed as the legal and institutional barriers to equality came down.

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RBear says... June 18, 2018 at 6:42 a.m.

Through this entire discourse, Gitz makes a lot of claims but ignores the reality of the matter. That is that in much of the conservative speech that erupted over Obama's practices there were tones of racism in them. When Trump started his campaign, he attracted the racist element of the Republican Party. When Trump even spoke about racially charged events, his speech did NOTHING to dissuade the racists.
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So, good going Gitz. You completely ignored the elephant in the room trying to whitewash the racist element of conservatism. Quite honestly, I don't call someone a racist UNTIL they use terms attributable to racism in their comments or speech. Just like I don't refer to someone as a homophobe UNTIL they cross the line themselves. Then that is the clear indicator the attitude is ingrained in their psyche.
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Let me put it this way. I'm a clownophobe. Yes, I have a hatred of clowns. It's built into me. Is there anything wrong with clowns? No, but I don't like them. But no one suspects that until they see me around a clown and then the prejudice comes out. I just don't like clowns. My point is that I hide it VERY WELL until something causes me to express my displeasure and then people know. That's the same with racists. Most people don't know who they are UNTIL they voice their prejudice.
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With regards to the "marketplace of ideas," let's be clear. When speech is designed to promote hate crimes, then that speech should be banned. When speech is designed to instill hatred between the races, that speech should not be a part of the "marketplace of ideas." When you believe it should, your purist views of free speech are really subtexts for tolerance for racism.

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BoudinMan says... June 18, 2018 at 7:51 a.m.

"...the pernicious expansion of the racism charge..." occurred because there was a pernicious expansion of exhibited and vocal racism on the part of the person whom the republicans chose to be their standard bearer, and his sycophantic followers. Just read some of the comments posted in this paper by his worshipers and you find racism--simian references to the Obamas, and homophobic slurs. You are who you show the world you are.

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DoubleBlind says... June 18, 2018 at 8:45 a.m.

At the end of the day, it comes down to human rights; racism is merely one aspect. And this administration has proven time and again - as recently as at last week’s ‘summit’ w/NK’s brutal dictator where human rights were not even broached - that human rights be damned. You can be the biggest racist in the universe but the fact that you have a POTUS who admires dictators and aspires to dictatorship should still alarm you.

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LRCrookAttorney says... June 18, 2018 at 8:50 a.m.

"By smearing Obama's conservative critics as racists, liberals embraced a tactic that would lead them to eventually attribute racist motives to just about anyone who opposed the progressive agenda."
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Plain english is "People were tired of being called racist, just because they opposed any view from the left."
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Rbear..."...speech that erupted over Obama's practices there were tones of racism in them."
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With this statement proves the entire article. No one knows, until a leftist tells them, that the "tones" they are using is racist. A conservative who stated "I didn't vote for Obama, because I did not like his policies," was immediately classified as a racist. In return the liberal said (by looking behind the statement) "You didn't vote for Obama, because you are a racist."
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The liberal (actually believing what they are saying) supported everything Obama stood for, and therefore no "rational" person could oppose Obama's policies without being a racist. People were tired of this, and saw it as a move back to the 70s and suppressing any speech that did not agree with the "group."

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LRCrookAttorney says... June 18, 2018 at 8:53 a.m.

RBear..."Quite honestly, I don't call someone a racist UNTIL they use terms attributable to racism in their comments or speech. Just like I don't refer to someone as a homophobe UNTIL they cross the line themselves."
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True or not, the way that someone "crosses that line" is simply not agreeing with a so-called racial agenda or homo-sexual agenda. Some believe (about the homosexual agenda) that they deserve and should be afforded the same rights as anyone else. However, at the same time, see these rights exploited to force their views on the public at large.

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RBear says... June 18, 2018 at 9:06 a.m.

LRCrook that’s an easy way out of this, but ignores the actual prejudice others experience. I could say the same for the so-called religious agenda that is imposed on many of us in conservative legislatures like AR. Just this past weekend, the TX Republican Party chose to support reintroduction of the bathroom bill, not as a public safety issue which they lost on last time, but as a religious liberty issue. You can’t tell me legislation to restrict local ordinances supporting equality are not religious based. The issue swings both ways, but our Constitution swings towards equality.

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23cal says... June 18, 2018 at 9:08 a.m.

About "Implicit in such claims is the somewhat implausible proposition that lots of white voters who voted for Obama not just once but twice somehow suddenly experienced racist makeovers." Bwahahahahaha! How absurd! The answer is that many of those who were never racist voted for Obama twice. The racists didn't vote for him either time.
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Of course, those racists who didn't vote for Obama voted for Trump. A typical example would be David Duke. Remember what he said at Charlottesville: “We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said from the rally, calling it a “turning point.” “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back.”
Remember what he tweeted to Trump? "I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists."
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Glitz's claim that the David Dukes of this world voted for Obama and not Trump is beyond laughable.
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About "That there were undoubtedly Obama critics then and Trump supporters now motivated by racism made it too easy for liberals to assume the worst and attribute such motives to all Obama's critics and all Trump supporters, groups which also just happened to be overwhelmingly conservative.' My experience is that liberals point out racists and incidences of racism, instead of tarring all conservatives with that brush. Glitz will claim anything to smear liberals, doing what he erroneously accuses liberals of doing in regard to conservatives. This is known as "projecting". It is also known as offering baseless assertions as facts, or "dishonesty".
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In a study early this year, the Southern Poverty Law Center identified 954 groups as hate groups, up from 917 in 2016. Much of the rise took place inside the white supremacist movement. The number of neo-Nazi groups grew from 99 to 121. For those of you with math issues, that's about a 20% increase under Trump in one year. Yeah...roughly half of the increase in hate groups was White Supremacist/Nazi....you know, the ones David Duke say voted for Trump.
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No more commentary from me on this due to me stopping reading here because the lies and silliness are so egregious they aren't worth any more time. Come to think of it, this article wasn't worth the time to read this far.

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LRCrookAttorney says... June 18, 2018 at 9:21 a.m.

RBear...In all of your arguments, you have to make assumptions. For example, "...you cannot tell me..." I really don't have a dog in the bathroom fight. As far as I am concerned, take the stalls (doors) off and let men and women use the same bathroom, then separate for children under 18. I really don't want to see neither man nor woman sitting on toilette doing their business. Twenty + years ago Europe (a lot of it) had unisex bathrooms, the last trip I took in 2015 this had changed. Basically, tourism and outcries changed the bathroom issue. Just go to the bathroom and use it. The whole argument in the article is the use of racism for any and every argument against policy during the Obama Administration. A larger percentage of the public did not like being called racist, after voting for Obama, but then disagreeing with certain policies. They also did not like seeing the racial divide growing during the Administration after voting for Obama. They voiced those concerns in the last election. They will continue to do it, if people continue to act the way they did in Berkley and around the country.

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JakeTidmore says... June 18, 2018 at 9:26 a.m.

LRAC has no facts or research his to back his statements (same with Gitz). Too bad he doesn't work as much as he wastes his time posting here. That speaks volumes about his legal abilities. These trolls, like LittleRockAnonymousCoward, are neither brave or free if they have to hide in the dark.

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RBear says... June 18, 2018 at 9:36 a.m.

LRCrook you make a general statement, upon which I came back with a general rebuttal using an example in TX, then you made it specific to you. Sorry, but we don’t review these issues based on what you like or don’t like.
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With regards to being called racist, very rarely do you hear me call a Trump supporter racist EXCEPT when the issue is truly about race. To make it general, most don’t just like most right wingers are not racist. But Gitz and now you took a few instances and labeled the entire progressive population with that assertion. Gitz loves to do that, but can rarely back his claims up with facts. You fell right into that same trap.
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As I said, until you truly cross the racist or homophobic line I will not label you as such. I don’t think I’ve ever labeled you as either because in my interaction with you I’ve not seen it. On the other hand, it’s very apparent with fake and a few others.

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