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Crossroads ahead March 2, 2015 at 6:19 p.m.

Pack - "Hey armnar and NoUser - The CBO recently said that over 30 million people will STILL be without health insurance after ten years of Obamacare. Kind of blows up your "fewer ER visits" narrative, don't you think?"
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Considering I said that there has NOT been a decline in ER visits and that total uninsured hasn't significantly changed, I'd say...no, it doesn't blow up my narrative at all. Doesn't speak to well regarding your reading comprehension, however.

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Poor find UA costs an uphill struggle March 1, 2015 at 7:21 p.m.

Pop - "That is just tuition--not dorm and eating costs."
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NO, Pop. Direct from the article: "The net-price data look at the total cost of attendance, which includes books, transportation and housing, then subtracts the average amount of governmental and institutional aid, not including loans. For the lowest-income group, the net price was $8,801 for the 2012-13 school year."
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Housing SHOULD include food costs especially for those ON campus. But even if it doesn't, that doesn't change the picture much.
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"but for poor kids who may need to contribute to mom's cancer treatments etc. $80,000 is quite a bit of money. "
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You have GOT to be kidding me. I think 'rich' people forking over cash for cancer treatments probably think $80k is a fair chunk of change too.
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FSM - "GOD it was hard for me when I was growing up and I want it to be hard for the kids growing up today."
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Yeah, that MUST be it. MY point still stands. The poor in this article were NO worse off than I was when I graduated...yet somehow I managed. On my own. Pretty easily at that. Maybe it's time we EXPECT better of the next generation.
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Pop again - "We should not make it so hard for people to improve themselves."
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Oh, I don't disagree. But it's the magnitude of hard, dearie. I don't think I had it rough, and as I've stated, the picture on graduation for me wasn't much different than that facing the poor in this article. Then again, I didn't choose a not-in-demand major and it didn't take me a decade full-time to find myself and finish my degree.

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Crossroads ahead March 1, 2015 at 4:49 p.m.

AM: "DK, we were all paying for the uninsured who would show up in the ER with no way to pay for treatment. Do you wish to return to that clusterfark?"
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That's only part of it. 1. ER was being used as primary care and the ER is expensive. One point of the ACA was that poor would now go to primary care rather than ER, bringing costs down. I think data is showing this not to be the case. 2. Without charity care, hospitals should lose tax exempt status. 3. Total uninsured isn't significantly changed with ACA. So do you think the ACA is making a noticeable difference in lowering rates (the obvious conclusion of your statement above)?

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Poor find UA costs an uphill struggle March 1, 2015 at 3:09 p.m.

Okay...Title: "Poor find UA costs an uphill struggle "
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Cost: " For the lowest-income group, the net price was $8,801 for the 2012-13 school year."
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So...approximately $35k over 4 years. I don't get it. I had about $30k in loans after graduating in the late 90s and contributed $2k/year from my summer job. So, nearly $40k out of pocket that *I* paid directly toward college. Comparable to the costs listed here. And...I had a higher loan rate than the subsidized rate now. So...let me repeat the title: " Poor find UA costs an uphill struggle " Why?
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Oh, and that $30k in loans? Paid off within 5 years of graduation. That's not to say college tuition isn't rising at a very high rate, because it is, but give me a break. We're becoming a nation of lazy p*ssies. Oh, and you know what, DON'T TAKE SIX YEARS TO GRADUATE EITHER.

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House rejects Homeland Security funding February 28, 2015 at 8:35 a.m.

Pop - "it is extremely dangerous for us all."
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No, it's not. Homeland Security is a bloated inefficient department. And it is allowed to be that because, after all, it's about 'our safety.'

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Origin of rights matters February 27, 2015 at 6:42 p.m.

Pack - " As such, it's clear that the framers of that particular passage of the US Constitution intended "our creator" and Christian "God" to be one and the same."
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No. The framers were EXTREMELY careful with the words they chose.

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Another crack in the wall February 26, 2015 at 8:21 p.m.

I STILL can't buy f*ck'n beer on Sunday. Screw YOUR religious freedom.

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Anti-bias law ban unsigned to end February 26, 2015 at 5:52 p.m.

it is completely believable Sandusky was born attracted to kids. And science is starting to prove it.
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"If all the LBGT folks want is justice it could be had at a much cheaper price by instituting civil unions that afford every protection."
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Marriage was redefined as soon as the government got involved so why make the distinction between marriage and civil union?
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"impact me by forcing me to perform services I disagree with, such as baking a same sex wedding cake, then you are infringing on my rights"
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As a baker, baking a cake infringes on your rights?

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Anti-bias law ban unsigned to end February 25, 2015 at 6:35 p.m.

Incidentally, male homophobes were more likely to be sexually aroused by gay porn than non-homophobes.

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A statement of abdication February 25, 2015 at 6:33 p.m.

Well, Whipper, that is STILL something that could be fixed locally. But I appreciate the lame response -again- of dismissing my comment because I don't present an alternative. That's a chickens**t debate tactic, don't ya know.

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