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FBI did not act on tip in Florida February 17, 2018 at 7:07 p.m.

DB thanks for providing more facts. It's how the rational people will see the absurdity of the gun freaks' arguments and stand with those who prefer a safer America. If you notice, and I'm sure you have, there are no facts or rational points coming from those who support more gun ownership. It's like an addiction with them and the effects of that addiction are spilling over into those who prefer to live safe and healthy lives.

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Meddling probe indicts 13 Russians; charges say scheme was to lift Trump, sow havoc February 17, 2018 at 6:22 p.m.

Dang, the right wing trolls went ballistic in here but with no real facts or information. Just a bunch of clueless rants. Typical of the Trump demographic. Other than the aspect of possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian state-actors which is still under investigation, my bigger fear is the continued damage to our nation's political system that is inflicted by these hackers.
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Using various tools, they are able to amplify messages to drive discord and distrust in our system. They are attacking the very principles of our democracy and most on the right don't even care which is quite disturbing. It shows how issue illiterate they are and how easily they are swayed.

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FBI did not act on tip in Florida February 17, 2018 at 6:03 p.m.

The usual suspects are in here running their mouths without research. GM is all over the map as a BSC lunatic who can't even put two thoughts together in a coherent manner. Not planning on addressing him when he is raving like a lunatic. He never listens and usually just cherry picks comments.
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Pack does his usual pivot to abortion, yet ignores capital punishment as a form of state sponsored killing. Regarding the other points, not sure what he means by 200 years under the Second Amendment. I guess that means 200 years to distort the original meaning of the Second Amendment to suit a gun lobby's needs. Regarding the gun laws, saying that we would be safe IF all the laws were enforced is a pile of hooey. I'm pretty sure every law was enforced properly WHEN Nikolas Cruz acquired his guns and ammunition. So tell me what laws weren't enforced that would have prevented his assault.
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It's real simple. I did the research and other countries do a heck of a lot better at dealing with this issue. Kids are being killed in schools, a place where they expect to be safe while learning. Why? Because a bunch of gun freaks demand to own an assault rifle that is capable of killing or injuring 30 or so people at a rate of one every 8 seconds.
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I bring simple facts to the table. The gun nuts throw a bunch of baseless rhetoric around without any counterfacts.

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FBI did not act on tip in Florida February 17, 2018 at 9:46 a.m.

And we get the typical deflection from GCW. So tell me GCW, other nations have the same "influences" you cited here (movies are shown in Germany as much as here, same freedom of press in Germany as here, same video games as here). Yet they don't have the problem we have here. Same is true for Japan, Australia, Israel, etc. What's the difference? Different gun laws and ownership. So help me out. Tell me why we're different than Germany, Australia, Japan, and Israel.

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Meddling probe indicts 13 Russians; charges say scheme was to lift Trump, sow havoc February 17, 2018 at 9:30 a.m.

ROTFL@skeptic. Following your line, shouldn't those indictments start with the Republican Party who originally funded the dossier? BTW, what is illegal about the dossier?

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Meddling probe indicts 13 Russians; charges say scheme was to lift Trump, sow havoc February 17, 2018 at 9:16 a.m.

These indictments provide even more proof of Russian meddling in the election and, in this case, work to sway the election for particular interests designed to upset America's political system. The fact the WH doesn't take this more seriously gives even more concern for our Republic and how easily it can be manipulated.
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The latest attack by the Russian bots, as tracked by Hamilton 68, was in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting. Bots amplified conspiracy theories promoted by sites such as Infowars and other sources. Gun rights advocates postings were boosted by the bots and questionable facts disputing gun control were also amped up.
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The primary goal of Russian state-actors is to sow discontent, weaken many of the institutions of democracy such as a free press, and attack trust in our law enforcement groups. Currently, the top hashtags being promoted by the bots are #Mueller, #NeverRomney, #13Russians, and #nocollusion, Top URLs being promoted are Hannity's stories on no collusion. The bots average around 18-20K tweets a day.
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When I look at the tweets and Facebook posts of some of my friends, I find the quality of sources degrades the further right the ideology. I've blocked any posts by friends from Infowars so it may be worse. BTW, helpful hint for you on Facebook. You can block posts from a source without blocking your friend. Click on the three dots by the post. That cuts a lot of trash from your feed and impacts the algorithms to downgrade the source.

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FBI did not act on tip in Florida February 17, 2018 at 7:59 a.m.

Exactly DB. In today's D-G, there is another article about that very subject and the limitations states have in being able to remove firearms from individuals who have been deemed to be risky with a court order. Currently, only five states have such laws but 18 others, including FL, are considering adding the laws. Arkansas is not and I don't think it will come up in the next session.
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However, it will be interesting to see how gun rights advocates square up against these laws. Personally, I think it's one of the restrictions they should accept for the right to gun ownership. Others would include a mental evaluation to look for signs of aggressive or dangerous behavior. That would have probably prevented Cruz from purchasing the AR-15. I would like for AR-15s to be banned, but absent an outright ban I think mental evaluations should be considered a necessary requirement to own such a weapon.

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FBI did not act on tip in Florida February 17, 2018 at 7:10 a.m.

abb "big" mistakes? I think that's an overstatement by a right winger who has subscribed to the line from the right to distrust the FBI. Your comment and that of Gov. Scott is pretty disgusting to use such a tragedy to push a political agenda. Even if they had acted on the tip, tell me what they could have legally done, especially considering your comments about gun rights. Most likely, you would have criticized the FBI if they would have taken the gun, claiming it was violating Cruz's right to own a gun.
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Not sure if I even want to comment on the later part of your statement due to the absurd position you take. But let's at least get this out there. You probably didn't read any of the research I did on school shootings yesterday, so I'll catch you up in the crayon, summary version (probably all you could take in).
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Looking at school shootings around the world, the record in the US is pathetic. Whereas entire continents have maybe one or two every couple of years, the US averages around 10 school shootings a year. Along those same lines, the US has a one to one gun ownership ratio compared with other nations where the ratio of people to guns is like ... 30 to 1 in Israel or 30% in Germany. In fact, you can look at the gun homicide rate and find almost a direct correlation between gun ownership rates and the homicide rates.
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While the Second Amendment does grant the right of gun ownership to citizens, the Supreme Court also issued opinions that said that right should come with restrictions and requirements. That scary looking "sporting rifle" has been used in every single mass shooting in the past several years. There is no valid reason for you to have it, especially if it is a contributor in massacres in schools.
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The HS in Parkland, FL did everything they could to prevent an active shooter. They had an armed officer on site. They followed their active shooter training procedures. They issued a red alert as soon as they saw Cruz walk towards the campus. But none of that worked because Cruz was able to fire off so many rounds into classrooms before anything could happen. In fact, the entire attack lasted around 4 minutes from the time Cruz tripped the fire alarm to when he discarded his weapon.
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In those four minutes, he killed 17 students and injured about the same number. That's a victim every 8 seconds. So, a start to solving the problem that has made the US the deadliest place to attend school is to ban the AR-15 style rifle from public ownership. Another is to institute greater requirements and restrictions on gun ownership.
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Do more gun laws solve the problem? Apparently so if you look at the rest of the nations around the world. We stand out in a very bad way. We stand out in orders of magnitude. It's time to fix that problem and so far gun rights advocates have offered nothing as a solution other than more guns. Here's a hint. More guns doesn't solve the problem. It amplifies it.

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FBI says it failed to investigate tip on Florida suspect; attorney general orders review February 17, 2018 at 4:51 a.m.

Retjam's comment echoes that research. Last time there was a school shooting in Israel was 2009. Their ratio of guns per capita is 1 in 30. The US? One to one. We average 10 school shootings a year. School shootings! Not some drive-by shooting.
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Oh, and one other thing. Based on your comment, you probably would not pass the mental test. It's designed to weed out overly aggressive individuals who are more prone to using guns against others. Think about that.

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FBI says it failed to investigate tip on Florida suspect; attorney general orders review February 17, 2018 at 4:45 a.m.

HawfJockey you just jumped into this conversation and apparently missed all the research on gun violence worldwide regarding school shootings. The US has the worst record and, to no surprise, the highest ratio of guns to individuals. So more guns definitely doesn’t solve the problem. In fact, it worsens it. The data proves that out.
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Do us all a favor and do some serious research first BEFORE you jump in with as hominem attacks.

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