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story.lead_photo.caption Arkansas State coach Blake Anderson, left, and Arkansas coach Bret Bielema are shown during these 2014 file photos. ( Arkansas Democrat-Gazette )

It is an ageless debate, one that comes up numerous times a year on radio talk shows, and recently it was on The Show With No Name on The Buzz, KABZ-FM, 103.7, in Little Rock.

Will Arkansas ever play Arkansas State?

It would seem the answer is always going to be no.

When John Barnhill took over as the UA's athletic director and head football coach in 1946, his plan was to make the Razorbacks the statewide team. In 1948, when War Memorial Stadium opened in Little Rock, he started scheduling multiple games each season there.

He also decided the Hogs never would play ASU. Partly for recruiting purposes, but also because to define them as a viable competitor only would decrease the fan base of the Razorbacks and the team's bank account.

Barnhill coached the Razorbacks for four years before being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. He gave up the coaching duties but continued as the AD, hiring Otis Douglas, Bowden Wyatt and Jack Mitchell as head football coaches.

After Mitchell's third season, when he became the head coach at Kansas, Barnhill hired an aggressive 34-year-old with one year's experience as head coach, Frank Broyles, and it turned out to be a marriage made in heaven.

Broyles hired a great staff -- something he did so regularly that the Broyles Award was founded by David Bazzel to honor an outstanding assistant coach each year -- and in 19 seasons compiled a 144-58-5 record while taking the Razorbacks to 10 bowl games, and that was long before the glut of postseason games.

There were only 11 bowl games in 1975 when Broyles gave up the head coaching duties to concentrate on being the athletic director, a role he had assumed one year earlier.

There is no need to go into everything Broyles did for the UA -- including the at-the-time controversial move to the SEC, which has proven to be one of his most brilliant decisions, or that he stuck with Barnhill's theory about not playing Arkansas State.

The two haven't played and may never play, but ASU has defined itself over the years, first under Bennie Ellender, then Bull Davidson and Larry Lacewell.

More recently, the Red Wolves have had great success while going 44-21 and playing in five consecutive bowl games, so it isn't certain Arkansas State even would want to play the UA these days.

ASU Athletic Director Terry Mohajir has improved facilities and created stability in the hiring of Blake Anderson. His first three hires as head football coach were so good, they all won and left after a year for bigger jobs.

Mohajir and Central Arkansas Athletic Director Brad Teague have shown they will play in-state teams. The Red Wolves and Bears play Sept. 24 in Jonesboro.

It was reported in the Democrat-Gazette in February that ASU will travel to Alabama in 2018 for the handsome sum of $1.7 million.

It always has been believed the only way the Razorbacks and Red Wolves would meet would be on financially beneficial terms for both.

There is no doubt if the Hogs were opening the season with ASU, there would be a lot more excitement about the first game, although the Razorbacks traditionally draw well for the opener.

However, if that was the season opener in Fayetteville and if a one-game ticket price of $100 was approved, that would be a total of $7.2 million in revenue, or about $3 million more than a home game against Alabama or LSU.

So writing the Red Wolves a check for $1.5 million and banking $5.7 million would seem a natural, but the long history has been it won't happen. Maybe not ever.

Sports on 07/27/2016

Print Headline: Red Wolves vs. Hogs as unlikely as ever


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Archived Comments

  • wolfman
    July 27, 2016 at 8:58 a.m.

    I bet the fans would turn out. BUT like the article says..its all about money..another reason NOT to be a hogs fan.

  • hurricane46
    July 27, 2016 at 9:40 a.m.

    Why play ASU when they can play everyone else in the Sun Belt. Arkansas is the ONLY team in the SEC that doesn't play in state teams, it's time they entered the 21st century, and I graduated from ASU but I'm a big Hog fan.

  • Jackabbott
    July 27, 2016 at 9:49 a.m.

    Barnhill was right on at the time because the Hogs were only an after thought to many in those days. But times have changed and so have the circumstances. A match up between the two is desirable and would be a huge draw, it would not diminish the Hogs or glorify the Red Wolves, it is just a game. Competition in sports is a good thing and anyone who says it isn't, is dead wrong.

  • BensonHedges
    July 27, 2016 at 10 a.m.

    Everyone loves a David against Goliath story. For this century David-ASU has the winning record in head to head competion against the Razorbacks. I have heard the Razorbacks used to play Little Rock High. I would be curious to see last centuries instate results

  • hurricane46
    July 27, 2016 at 11:29 a.m.

    If it was up to coach B, the Hogs would probably play them.

  • John2001
    July 27, 2016 at 12:38 p.m.

    Wolfman, if "it's about the money" is your criteria for not liking a team then don't like any football team.

  • Sigmachi
    July 27, 2016 at 5:11 p.m.

    I can understand Barnhill's and Broyles' logic for not playing ASU. But now that UA has intentionally retreated from wanting to be all of Arkansas' team I might not mind seeing ASU play the Northwest Arkansas Razorbacks.

    July 28, 2016 at 11:30 a.m.

    Wally, Dean Lee hired Hugh Freeze and Gus Malzahn. Mohajir only hired Harsin and Anderson.

  • HawgFan
    August 1, 2016 at 8:01 a.m.

    dolphan.... Don't confuse Wally with facts.