South Carolina bill restricting abortion splits GOP senators

Democratic South Carolina Senate Minority Leader Brad Hutto, left, speaks to Senate Clerk Jeffrey Gossett before a debate on a bill banning abortion on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
Democratic South Carolina Senate Minority Leader Brad Hutto, left, speaks to Senate Clerk Jeffrey Gossett before a debate on a bill banning abortion on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina's Senate debate on an abortion ban that would no longer include exceptions for pregnancies caused by rape or incest started Wednesday with the chamber's three Republican women taking a stand against a bill they said doesn't respect women and doesn't respect life.

Republicans are facing off against one another over the ban. On one side are a core group that views any abortion as ending a life. On the other are conservatives who have digested developments elsewhere since Roe v. Wade was overturned and say they don't want 14-year-old rape victims to have to give birth, or to force a mother to carry to term a fetus unable to live outside the womb.

Senators have been told the proceedings could last days. If the legislation is approved and signed into law, South Carolina would join Indiana as states that have passed near-total abortion bans since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.

A first vote to try to add back the exceptions was rejected 23-6. None of the Senate's Democrats voted, refusing to help more moderate Republicans and keeping the bill as strict as possible to try to defeat it.

Democrats are not going to help Republicans out of a box of their own making by making "an awful bill a very bad bill," Senate Minority Leader Brad Hutto said.

The three Republican women in the Senate rose early in the debate and and spoke back-to-back, saying they can't support the bill unless the rape and incest exceptions are restored.

"Are we simply baby machines? Are you pregnant with a dead baby? Too bad. Raped at 11 by your grandfather and got pregnant? That's just too bad," Sen. Penry Gustafson said.

Gustafson watched as the Senate's longest-serving woman, Sen. Katrina Shealy, said the 41 men in the Senate would be better off listening to their wives, daughters, mothers, granddaughters and nieces.

"Yes, I'm pro-life. I'm also pro-life for the mother, the life she has with her children who are already born. I care about the children who are forced into adulthood, made up by a Legislature full of men so they can feel good about it," Shealy said.

Senators who support the ban said the state needs to show it values all life by taking advantage of the opening created by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Sen. Richard Cash compared abortion to slavery Tuesday, asking if "the human being in the womb is nothing more than the property of a woman?"

"Does an unborn human being have the most fundamental civil right of all, which is the right to life?" asked Cash, who has made ending abortion his chief focus in five years in the Senate.

The same bill without the exceptions appeared to fail in the more conservative state House last week before some Republicans maneuvered through a series of votes to allow abortions for rape and incest victims up to the 12th week of pregnancy.

Democrats -- and two Republicans -- did weigh in against the bill in a final losing 9-8 vote in Tuesday's committee meeting that could foreshadow the closeness of any vote in the full Senate.

By then, Democrats had refused to vote on other proposals by Republican Sen. Tom Davis, who has said for weeks that the bill needs to be modified from a total ban before he can support it.

They included assuring that a doctor can perform the abortion if it is determined a fetus has a medical condition that won't allow it to live -- an issue at the center of a federal lawsuit over Idaho's abortion ban -- as well as increasing access to contraceptives and including birth control as part of the state's abstinence-based sex education.

Those ideas could be taken up on the Senate floor, along with a reconsideration of the rape and incest exceptions, in a chamber where Republicans outnumber Democrats 30 to 16.

  photo  Republican South Carolina Majority Leader Shane Massey, standing, and Republican Sen. Shane Martin, sitting, listen during debate on a bill banning abortion on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Democratic South Carolina Sen. Gerald Malloy stands on the Senate floor during a debate on abortion on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Republican South Carolina Sen. Richard Cash speaks about a bill banning abortion on the Senate floor on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Republican South Carolina Sen. Sandy Senn speaks about a bill banning abortion on the Senate floor on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Republican South Carolina Sen. Katrina Shealy speaks about a bill banning abortion on the Senate floor on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Republican South Carolina Sen. Penry Gustafson speaks about a bill banning abortion on the Senate floor on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Republican South Carolina Sen. Sandy Senn, right, talks to a Republican colleague Sen. Penry Gustafson, left,, during debate over a bill banning abortion on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Democratic South Carolina Sen. Marlon Kimpson prays before debate begins about a bill banning abortion on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 
  photo  Republican South Carolina Sen. Tom Davis looks over papers at his desk before debate about a bill banning abortion on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022, in Columbia, S.C. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Collins)
 
 

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