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McCarthy still optimistic but clock ticks on

‘We’re not going to default,’ House speaker maintains by Compiled by Democrat-Gazette staff From wire reports | May 25, 2023 at 4:55 a.m.
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy walks to his office Wednesday after a vote on the House floor. “We’re not going to default,” McCarthy said, adding that negotiators “made some progress” at the White House. (The New York Times/Haiyun Jiang)

WASHINGTON -- A defiant House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said Wednesday the debt ceiling standoff was "not my fault" as he sent Republican negotiators to the White House to finish out talks, but warned the two sides need more time as they try to reach a budget deal with President Joe Biden.

McCarthy said he remained optimistic they could reach an agreement before a deadline as soon as next week, when the Treasury Department could run out of cash to pay its bills. Financial markets are teetering as Washington edges closer to a debt default crisis that would be unprecedented in modern times, sending shock waves around the globe.

Late in the day, Fitch Ratings agency placed the United States' AAA credit on "ratings watch negative," warning of a possible downgrade because of what it called the brinkmanship and political partisanship over lifting the debt ceiling.

The White House blamed the Republicans led by McCarthy for risking a devastating default that would hit "every single part of the country" as they demand "extreme" spending cuts that would hurt millions of Americans.

"We're not going to default," McCarthy, R-Calif., assured.

The Republican speaker said the negotiators "made some progress" at the White House. "I want to work as hard as we can and not stop."

Negotiators met for roughly four hours Wednesday afternoon at the White House and were silent upon leaving, which some regarded as a hopeful sign after days of public posturing from both sides. Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., a key bargainer, rushed past reporters at the Capitol saying: "No news."

McCarthy stayed uncharacteristically close-lipped after the meeting ended, leaving the Capitol on Wednesday night without speaking to reporters. But he expressed cautious optimism, telling Fox Business that "things are going a little better."

With no deal imminent, Republican leaders told lawmakers they were free to return home for the Memorial Day weekend, but could be summoned back on short notice to vote. The announcement made clear that McCarthy and his deputies did not expect a resolution to avert a default to materialize until next week, just days from the projected June 1 deadline.

At the same time, the speaker sought to reassure the markets that a deal could be reached.

"I would not, if I was in the markets, be afraid of anything in this process," he said. "I wouldn't scare the markets in any shape or form. We will come to an agreement worthy of the American public, and there should not be any fear. Money is coming in every day."

Before the meeting, McCarthy sought to pressure Biden and congressional Democrats to accept spending cuts to domestic programs in exchange for raising the debt limit and allowing the Treasury Department to avoid missing payments.

"You have to spend less than you spent last year," McCarthy said at a news conference in the Capitol as Biden administration and Republican negotiators gathered at the White House. "That is not that difficult to do. But in Washington, somehow that is a problem."

Debt ceiling negotiations are locked on a classic problem that has divided and disrupted Washington before, particularly the last time Republicans used the borrowing limit as leverage to extract priorities a decade ago: Republicans want to roll back federal government spending, while Biden and other Democrats do not.

From the White House, Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre decried what the administration called a "manufactured crisis" set in motion by Republicans pushing "extreme proposals" that would hurt "every single part of the country, whether you're in a red state or a blue state."


Time is short to strike a deal. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Wednesday that "it seems almost certain" that the United States would not make it past early June without defaulting. That would be catastrophic, as the government risks running out of cash to pay its bills as soon as June 1.

"We are seeing some stress already in Treasury markets," Yellen said at a Wall Street Journal event.

Failure to raise the nation's debt ceiling, now at $31 trillion, would risk a potentially chaotic federal default, almost certain to inflict economic turmoil at home and abroad. Anxious retirees and social service groups are among those making default contingency plans.

While Biden has ruled out, for now, invoking the 14th Amendment to raise the debt limit on his own, Democrats in the House announced they have all signed on to a legislative "discharge" process that would force a debt ceiling vote. But they need five Republicans to break with their party and tip the majority to set the plan forward.

"Sign the bill!" Democrats yelled on the House floor after Republican Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., announced lawmakers could keep plans to recess today, but could be called back for votes. The House is set to begin a weeklong Memorial Day recess Friday.

Dragging into a third week, the negotiations over raising the nation's debt limit were never supposed to arrive at this point.

The White House insisted early on it was unwilling to barter over the need to pay the nation's bills, demanding that Congress simply lift the ceiling as it has done many times before with no strings attached.

The newly elected speaker visited Biden at the Oval Office in February, urging the president to come to the negotiating table on a budget package that would reduce spending and the nation's ballooning deficits in exchange for the vote to allow future debt.

Cheered on by a hard-charging conservative House majority that hoisted him to power, McCarthy was not swayed by a White House counter offer to freeze spending instead. "A freeze is not going to work," McCarthy said.

"We have to spend less than we spent last year. That is the starting point."

Negotiations are focused on finding agreement on a 2024 budget year limit. Republicans have set aside their demand to roll back spending to 2022 levels, but say that next year's government spending must be less than it is now. But the White House instead offered to freeze spending at current 2023 numbers.

By sparing defense and some veterans accounts from reductions, the Republicans would shift the bulk of spending reductions to other federal programs, an approach that breaks a tradition in Congress of budget cap parity.

Agreement on that topline spending level is vital. It would enable McCarthy to deliver spending restraints for conservatives while not being so severe that it would chase off the Democratic votes that would be needed in the divided Congress to pass any bill.

But what, if anything, Democrats would get if they agreed to deeper spending cuts than Biden's team has proposed is uncertain.

McCarthy and his Republican negotiators said what the Democrats get is a debt ceiling increase -- typically something both parties take responsibility for doing.

"The problem is not the White House. The problem is Kevin McCarthy and the extreme Republicans," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., the chair of the progressive caucus. "They are the ones holding this economy hostage, that are putting all these cuts on the American people." The White House has continued to argue that deficits can be reduced by ending tax breaks for wealthier households and some corporations, but McCarthy said he told the president at their February meeting that raising revenue from tax hikes is off the table.

"We will continue to call out and reject this reckless hostage-taking from extreme MAGA Republicans," Jayapal said.

In an effort to pressure McCarthy and other Republicans not to accept any deal that falls short of the House-passed bill, Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, an influential hard-liner, released a memo asserting that every measure in the legislation was "critical."

"None should be abandoned solely for the quest of a 'deal'," Roy wrote.

The negotiators are now also debating the duration of a 1% cap on annual spending growth going forward, with Republicans dropping their demand for a 10-year cap to six years, but the White House offering only one year, for 2025.

Republicans, however, are pushing additional priorities as the negotiators focus on the $100 billion-plus difference between the 2022 and 2023 spending plans as a place to cut.

They want to beef up work requirements for government aid to recipients of food stamps, cash assistance and the Medicaid health care program that the Biden administration says would impact millions of people who depend on assistance.

All sides have been eyeing the potential for the package to include a framework to ease federal regulations and speed energy project developments. They are all but certain to claw back some $30 billion in unspent covid-19 funds now that the pandemic emergency has officially been lifted.

The White House has countered by keeping defense and nondefense spending flat next year, which would save $90 billion in the 2024 budget year and $1 trillion over 10 years.

McCarthy promised lawmakers he will abide by the rule to post any bill for 72 hours before voting, making any action doubtful until the weekend -- just days before the potential deadline. The Senate would also have to pass the package before it could go to Biden's desk to be signed.

"It does appear increasingly likely that House Republicans want a dangerous default, they want to crash the economy and they want to trigger a job-killing recession," said Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., the minority leader. "It's my hope that five Republicans from New York or California or other moderate districts throughout the country can prove me wrong."

Information for this article was contributed by Lisa Mascaro, Stephen Groves, Seung Min Kim, Fatima Hussein, Kevin Freking, Darlene Superville and Mary Clare Jalonick of The Associated Press and by Carl Hulse and Catie Edmondson of The New York Times.

  photo  Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., speaks to reporters at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, May 24, 2023. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
  photo  Negotiations on the debt limit continue in the House of Representatives between mediators from the Biden administration and Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, May 24, 2023. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
  photo  Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., speaks to reporters at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, May 24, 2023. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
  photo  Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., speaks to reporters at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, May 24, 2023. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
  photo  House Speaker Kevin McCarthy of Calif., speaks to reporters about debt limit negotiations, Wednesday, May 24, 2023, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

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