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Hutchinson signs new religion bill

By Danielle Kloap , Gavin Lesnick

This article was originally published April 2, 2015 at 10:39 a.m. Updated April 2, 2015 at 3:05 p.m.

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Gov. Asa Hutchinson shakes hands with Rep. Bob Ballinger after he signed Senate Bill 975 into law on Thursday.

Hutchinson signs SB975 into law

Gov. Asa Hutchinson on Thursday signed Senate Bill 975 into law after requesting a day earlier for lawmakers to change a separate religious freedom bill to bring it closer to federal law. (By Gavin Lesnick)
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Gov. Asa Hutchinson signs Senate Bill 975 into law in his conference room at the state Capitol on Thursday afternoon.

Rep. Bob Ballinger presents Senate Bill 975 Thursday in the Arkansas House.

Do you agree with HB1228, Arkansas' Religious Freedom Restoration Act?

  • Yes; it's an important protection for those who wish to exercise sincerely held religious beliefs. 19% 1586 votes
  • No; it will allow businesses to discriminate against members of the LGBT community. 71% 5867 votes
  • No, but it can be remedied with language saying the legislation specifically has no discriminatory intent. 6% 551 votes
  • I have no position. 0% 53 votes
  • Other (please comment) 1% 104 votes

8161 total votes.

Gov. Asa Hutchinson on Thursday signed a bill that closely aligns state law with the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act a day after he asked lawmakers to make changes to a different religious-protection bill that many criticized as discriminatory.

The Arkansas House voted 76-17 to pass Senate Bill 975, which cleared the Senate late Wednesday and made it out of the House Judiciary Committee earlier Thursday.

SB975 is seen as a replacement for House Bill 1228, a bill supporters said ensured state protections for religious freedom but opponents decried as enabling discrimination against gay people.

Hutchinson had said he would sign HB1228 but announced Wednesday after it made it to his desk that he wanted a change — either by amendment or new legislation — that brought the bill's intent closer to the language of the 1993 federal act, which was signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

Rep. Bob Ballinger, R-Hindsville and the sponsor of HB1228, said that first bill was "really good" legislation and that its application had been mired by incorrect perceptions rising out of controversy surrounding it and a religious-freedom bill that was signed into law last month in Indiana.

But Ballinger on Thursday still asked the House to pass SB975, which he characterized as one that accomplishes the same goal of "protect[ing] religion at a heightened scrutiny."

He said SB975 is "essentially the Federal RFRA."

"What we've done is Arkansas-ized it I guess and made apply to Arkansas code," he said. "The misconceptions and confusion about [HB1228] have caused enough problems that we thought we'd go back to the drawing board...go back to the essential purpose of bill to get a strict scrutiny standard. Our citizens when we're done are going to be protected."

Only one legislator spoke against SB975 from the House floor, Rep. Josh Miller, R-Heber Springs.

"We voted on a bill in this chamber four times that was voted on and approved four times, and it went to the governor's desk," Miller said. "And I for one do not appreciate someone hiding behind this body when they're unwilling to take a stand one way or another."

The House voted a short time after opponents and proponents of religious-freedom laws met on the state Capitol steps in dueling rallies.

Hutchinson praised legislators for working together to pass the new bill just over 24 hours after he requested the General Assembly amend HB1228 or pass different legislation.

"You have my thanks for your extra efforts for an Arkansas solution to a challenge that we face and I think what you've done in the last 24 hours is something that every Arkansan should be proud of," Hutchinson said to legislators gathered at the bill signing.

Protesters to any religious-protection bill have asked the governor for an executive order prohibiting discrimination against sexual orientation and gender identity, and Hutchinson said that is "still an option."

"Our full focus has been on this effort, this is the most critical piece of the puzzle," Hutchinson said of passing the Religious Freedom Protection Act. "...This debate goes on. The fact that it might not solve every problem for everyone probably means that it's a good bill."

As soon as Hutchinson signed the new religious-protection bill it became law because of an emergency clause attached to the legislation.

A motion by Ballinger in the House session to recall HB1228 passed on a voice vote Thursday afternoon.

"I don't like the idea of HB1228 being vetoed because...most know there wasn't anything wrong with 1228 except for the perception," Ballinger said.

Several representatives spoke against the motion, saying the body had followed the process of passing the original bill.

"The [House] speaker rightfully so told us to honor the right process, and we've gone through all the right motions and now we're having to recall a good bill," Rep. Donnie Copeland, R-North Little Rock, said.

Ballinger said he believed there could potentially be "negative repercussions" for not recalling the bill and got emotional as he urged the members of the House to end the session on a good note.

"We're finishing up 1228 with a bill that has now been signed into the law, that is the law in Arkansas right now," Ballinger said. "We have a strict scrutiny standard. Let's finish up, let's go home and get some sleep."

EARLIER:

An Arkansas House committee has passed a bill Thursday that would closely align state law with the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

The approval of Senate Bill 975 on a voice vote by the House Judiciary Committee came a day after Gov. Asa Hutchinson called on lawmakers to make changes either by amendment or new legislation to House Bill 1228.

That bill, a Religious Freedom Restoration Act sponsored by Rep. Bob Ballinger, R-Hindsville, landed on Hutchinson's desk Tuesday.

Ballinger on Thursday presented SB975, noting that it closely "mirrors" the federal law and blaming unfair, negative perception for stalling HB1228. He called HB1228 a "really good" bill while noting that SB975's language is very similar to the federal law signed by President Bill Clinton and an Illinois law that President Barack Obama voted for when he was a state senator.

"It's a lot harder for individuals to see this for what it's not," Ballinger said.

He said the "fundamental purpose" of both bills is "to protect religion at a heightened scrutiny."

"This bill does that same thing," he said of SB975. "This bill provides those religious protections."

One woman, Jacque Martin of Quitman, spoke out against the new bill, saying HB1228 offered her protections to choose not to play piano at a gay wedding when SB975 would not.

"Quite honestly, at this point, I really don't think I can continue providing that service to my church, to my community and sharing my music," she told the committee members before the vote. "Because this has become about the LGBT movement instead of allowing me as a human being to have my own religious conscious and how my God leads me to live that out."

Martin said afterward that she is paid to play at functions once or twice a year and has never been asked to play at a gay wedding. But, she said, she believes it could be a larger issue for people in bigger cities in other parts of Arkansas.

A number of businesses, groups, politicians and protesters criticized HB1228 as enabling discrimination against gay people.

Hutchinson had previously committed to signing HB1228, but on Wednesday said he wanted lawmakers to pass a law closer to the federal version.

The Senate later that day passed Senate Bill 229 and SB975 first out of committee and then out of the full chamber, sending them to the House. Ballinger presented only SB975.

Hutchinson, who acknowledged even his son had signed a petition seeking to have him veto HB1228, wouldn't say if he would ultimately take that step if lawmakers didn't come up with a solution closer to the federal law.

See Friday's Arkansas Democrat-Gazette for full coverage.

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mikedh says... April 2, 2015 at 11:59 a.m.

The governor should have signed the original bill, it was not about discrimination but about protection for all people of this state. Did he change his mind after his son signed the petition, if so, who is running this state?

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DontDrinkDatKoolAid says... April 2, 2015 at 12:18 p.m.

He choked coughed coughed choked.

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mitchstoner says... April 2, 2015 at 12:19 p.m.

Doubt it was his son that had that much influence. But when the big dogs like WalMart come out on an issue, it is hard to ignore the pressure and influence. A governor, after all, has to consider the ramifications to ALL of the state's residents.

An issue with strong emotional pull on both sides leaves a politician in a no-win position. The LGBT's and all of those who wish to be viewed as sensitive and progressive will hate him if he signs it. If he turns the bill down the conservatives, particularly the large number of conservative Christians who consider Hutchinson one of their own, will feel betrayed.

I'm glad I am only some random idiot commenting on an Internet discussion site and not a governor. There's more than enough hate that comes just from expressing your opinion here. One thing for sure, the hypocrisy of some who espouse tolerance becomes quite evident when they spew out their poison towards the opposing side. I don't discount the value of that insight.

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SRBROTHERINLAW says... April 2, 2015 at 12:25 p.m.

I THOUGHT HUTCHINSON HAD CAJONES...I GUESS I WAS WRONG...HE CAVED TO WALMART

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PM1118 says... April 2, 2015 at 12:30 p.m.

Walmart owns Asa Hutchinson. We need to honor the Constitution - this bill needs to die!

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Elector says... April 2, 2015 at 12:55 p.m.

All the people didn't matter, but when Wal-Mart spoke, the guv caved. Money talks and apparently he listens.

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23cal says... April 2, 2015 at 1:13 p.m.

About "Ballinger on Thursday presented SB975, noting that it closely "mirrors" the federal law and blaming unfair, negative perception for stalling HB1228. He called HB1228 a "really good" bill while noting that SB975's language is very similar to the federal law signed by President Bill Clinton and an Illinois law that President Barack Obama voted for when he was a state senator.'
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But, but, but.....haven't they along with this newspaper's editor been telling us all along that HB 1228 was the same as the bill Clinton signed in 1993? But, now, magically, this new bill is even more like that one. How can it be more like the 1993 bill than what they have been touting as the SAME THING?
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The only way I can imagine that happening is if they have been lying to us. Imagine that.
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About "A number of businesses, groups, politicians and protesters criticized HB1228 as enabling discrimination against gay people." You mean like the lady in this article thinks it does? The one reported as saying HB1228 offered her protections to choose not to play piano at a gay wedding when SB975 would not? Small wonder people say HB 1228 encouraged discrimination.......that was the purpose of it, and people like this woman make that perfectly clear.
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I'm going to give Asa credit for pretty good tightrope walking on this one. He knows he has to unstain the state image smudging this legislature is determined on, but has to give something to the right wing base at the same time. He is wise enough to know a veto would just be overridden, and his political finesse here may just work for him.

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mitchstoner says... April 2, 2015 at 1:30 p.m.

Ya know, 23cal, if you were to invite me to your house for a party, or invite me to go fishing with you, or a similar social thing, I might accept. On the other hand if you were to ask me to come help you slaughter some chickens and divine the future from their entrails, I would have to decline.

Why? Because that is in conflict with my religious beliefs. Would you then scream to the world about what a bigoted hater fake Christian I am? Because that is quite similar to the current brouhaha about whether Christians can be allowed to decline to participate in a gay wedding.

But I'm sure none of you will admit to seeing any part of our side of things, no matter what we say.

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ARMNAR says... April 2, 2015 at 1:31 p.m.

LOL @ SRBROTHER. You thought Asa had dresser drawers?

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mitchstoner says... April 2, 2015 at 1:34 p.m.

Yes there is an actual religion that practices divination from chicken entrails, called Santeria and in the U.S. practiced mostly in Florida by West Indian immigrants.

And yes, conservative Christians view such things as witchcraft, which we believe God forbids us from participating in.

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